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Ben Tossell

WhatsApp Status — An encrypted Snapchat Stories clone

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Ben Tossell
WhatsApp is my go-to messaging app, being in the UK. We've seen this format before - Snapchat, and then instagram. Although this version in particular is pretty much the same as Instagram Stories (obviously, given their parents) I dont know I have time to update every apps story Coverage from TechCrunch h/t @joshconstine I know there is always constant talk about whether Facebook can kill Snapchat and the Instagram Stories clone eating away at users etc. But Snapchat still seem to do an awesome job at putting together content for Stories I can't say I'm shocked Stories is now in Whatsapp Request For Product: App that posts the same story to Instagram, Snapchat & Whatsapp Although I think the point is to literally pick one app and just use that - otherwise, duplicate content 🙄
Illya Bakurov
@bentossell @joshconstine I am trying to figure out the way to actually implement such app to post stories into multiple apps at the same time. Would be super cool 😀 But I agree with you, that these companies do it to satisfy their already existing users' needs, so that users simply don't switch into another apps. On the other side, I am afraid that all these companies subconsciously raise the bar for any other new platform or service.
wojtek
@bentossell @joshconstine There have been plans for Stories to be available across Instagram, Facebook, Messenger, and WhatsApp as long as you follow the same people or have them in your friends list. Post in one, get it displayed in all apps.
Ben Lang
Top Product
I wonder how people are going to decide where to post a story now Snap, Instagram, Whatsapp, soon Facebook. ..
Chris Messina
Top Hunter
@benln we've been here before. Sheesh. Next up we'll need aggregators to deal with this until the next medium comes along... except this time there are no APIs. ☹️
Ben Lang
Top Product
@chrismessina Buffer for Stories 🔥
Ben Tossell
@benln @chrismessina ha that was my request above basically
Kunal Bhatia
@bentossell @benln @chrismessina yeah, I don't want open 5 platforms to watch stories for the same person. Once Buffer for Stories is out, I won't be a happy camper watching repeated stories.
Hoan Do
@benln Maybe everyone thinks too much and doesn't look carefully at the use cases. We have multiple circles of friends and acquaintances. There are more 200 countries in the world. Not everyone use Snapchat, not everyone use Instagram, not everyone use Whatsapp. Yep, all of us installed 5 or 6 chat apps in our phones, but for many purposes and to different groups. The dumbest things we will share only to our intimates on Snapchat. People don't add too many people on Snapchat if they are not influencers or artists. People add more friends on Instagram, and now they love Instagram for sharing everyday life moments with bigger audience. That is the reason of the success of Instagram Stories. In Europe or Africa, Whatsapp is communication king while many others are marked "for fast Internet only", "data stealing" or "privacy concerned". The circles of friends of Snapchat is smaller than Instagram, and Instagram is smaller than Whatsapp. People now don't have to find a place to share their moment. They can do it in Whatsapp.
Kirill Zubovsky
On a serious note, I wonder if WhatsApp gives FB a whole new channel for a new advertising model. The whole spray and pray on your normal FB is great, but like Google is getting old and boring, so will Facebook. With WhatsApp, they can now tell advertisers: "hey, we don't really know what's going on inside these encrypted channels, but we can help you ID the users in a brand new way, it just costs 10X your normal ad rates, but it is also 100X more useful. Want to try?"
Tristan Isham
The only bit that is exciting is that the feature is end-to-end encrypted. Besides that, I don't see so much of a need for another stories function. Being U.S. based, I tend to not use WhatsApp as much as others might, so I'm curious. Does an updated stories function matter, or seem like it will be useful to more avid WhatsApp users?
James Frew
@tristanisham I can't see myself using it. WhatsApp is chat. Quick chat for friends and groups. Like Messenger but lighter. Instagram lends itself properly to photos - its not really the point of WhatsApp.
Tristan Isham
@dr_motley I wrote about this and Facebook's war on Snap. Facebook's trying to just blatantly kill Snap through drowning out its user base. I don't see much of a benefit to any more story updates. I'm always for more encryption, but this update feels like a blatant lazy push.
James Frew
@tristanisham Agreed. The experience of the Stories feature (on any platform) will be hideously diluted if every single app has it.
Tristan Isham
@dr_motley personally, I'm already there. I hate Snap's UI, but I like how ephemeral it feels compared to Instagram. I like Insta's discoverability, but not enough people I know use it compared to those who use Snap. I fee like Statuses are an outdated functionality grandfathered in from the days of desktop only and unpolished OS's. They're kind of pointless now, especially since most apps come with real time read receipts and available markings. They're gimmicks. Gimmicks that can be used as thin veils of innovation. Define: unnecessary
Nash
Many people are missing the point that whatsapp is 5-6x larger than SnapChat and many people find whatsapp far more easier to use. If Whatsapp does a decent job of making this simple to understand it and consume it, this will catch on quick esp. considering most of my friends are on whatsapp (30+yr olds, non-US)
James Frew
@nash But Instagram and SC are apps designed for you to go on and browse, so the idea of disappearing photos that you can view while browsing makes sense. WhatsApp has a specific function - chat - and most people won't interact with the app unless to do something specific. For the Stories feature to work it needs the way people use and interact with the app to change.
Martin Otyeka
@dr_motley @nash He did mention a key point " If Whatsapp does a decent job of making this simple to understand it and consume it, this will catch on quick "
Muhammad Vaid
@otymartin @dr_motley @nash I disagree. I definitely do not want the majority of my Whatsapp contacts (family, colleagues etc) to see what I post on my Snapchat and I'm thankful for the fact that many of them don't have Snapchat. I'm sure this is true of most people who use the platform and is possibly Snapchat's biggest advantage.
Some Guy
Jeez Zuckerberg really took it personally when Snapchat rejected their acquisition offer. Been going to war with them with these Snapchat clones non stop. Let it go Mark, use your resources for more innovative things.
Tese Omesan
My problem with Status, is that it's just so clunky compared to the rest. Messenger day is next in line for the buggiest story system but status really takes the cake. It's lacking in features, lacking in contextual appeal and lacking in memorability. It's just pointless, and they need to either scrap it or make it more like facebook stories at least.
G G
WhatsApp is useless until it has multiple device support. Useless in 2017 for folks who own a computer and a tablet and multiple smartphones. WhatsApp built in an era for poor folks who could not afford text messages and did not have iMessage.
Tese Omesan
@androidlove but it does work on multiple devices doesn't it? I have it on my laptop at least and I think it has an ipad app.
Pedro Pinto
Most of the people I know in my country (Portugal) probably spends more time on Whatsapp than in the other messaging/social apps together. I'm curious to see how many of them are going to use this feature on a daily basis
Rishi Athanikar
Casey Newton from The Verge sums up Facebook's new feature development https://twitter.com/CaseyNewton/...
Kirill Zubovsky
Encrypted is the new _________ ? (caption contest)
Kirill Zubovsky
@tduarte perhaps. but to be honest, I love that FB is copying Snap like nobody's business. Instagram Stories are awesome. I use them maybe once a week, but I actually do. Meanwhile, Snap was this ugly UI clusterfuck that I could never care to figure out. So yeah, they were "Original" but they failed to address users like me, and cloning is the result.
Petr Bela
@kirillzubovsky @tduarte Apparently, we're not Snap's target audience. Young people supposedly love the navigation (or at least understand it). Still wondering how they'll get to $22B with <25 yo approach.
James Frew
@kirillzubovsky @tduarte Can't speak for you, but I had the same experience but largely down to their complete lack of interest in the Android app. Until last year they weren't even bothering to use the Android Camera API causing it to pretty much crash every time you opened.
Chris Messina
Top Hunter
I forget, was this possibility mentioned in Snap's S1 filing?
Frank te Pas
Facebook also announced a Stories feature for its main Facebook app, similar to Instagram's. This means, Facebook has now three Snapchat-like features. Especially in upcoming markets where Instagram has almost no presence and Facebook is huge, this will have immediate impact. People there will get to know Snapchat as Facebook's copycat. This is killing Snapchat's ability to grow
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