I really had an awesome time talking with Jason about approaching design with humility & open-mindedness, learning from failure, focusing on culture & hiring the right people, and the future of UX. I'll be around if anyone has questions about the episode. And if you haven't subscribed to User Defenders yet, you should. Jason is such a great guy - he brings on awesome guests, asks provocative questions, and then actually lets them answer. So many hosts like to jump in with anecdotes and make the show about them. Jason is 100% focused on ensuring that the audience walks away with valuable, unique learnings. I really appreciate his approach to podcast hosting.