@orliesaurus What would get rid of those creepy vibes ?

@jcampbell_05 the fact that me, friends and you all know where I am at all times for this app to be impactful

@orliesaurus Ah but your friends won't. If they are more than 2000 meters away you won't know where they are. And if they are less than 2000 meters then you will know their distance from you but we randomise their location in the app so you won't know if they are north, west east or south unless they share their location. Of course we also allow you to hide, so nobody knows where you are :)

@orliesaurus @jcampbell_05 As James says, users can never pin point you exact location just that you are in your area. We also have a hide feature that you can tap and disappear off the radar.

@denull Great :) let us know any feedback you have and come say hello sometime! :)

@denull This makes the pain of freezing cold hands so worth it! Thanks Dimo

@denull Amazing :)

@ediggs Thanks Eze! Great feedback we will take that on-board. One magical moment for me is that I actually met a friend of Rich's at an event, ended playing a good game of table football and made a friend.

@ediggs Thanks Eze.

@sarperdag Thanks Sarp! We've had a few people question whether or not the creep factor is still there. Hopefully, we've answered them. But I'd love to turn the question to you and ask whether you see us as creep-free and why :) Hugely grateful. Danny.

@paul_s_kemp Thanks Paul, really appreciate it. Hopefully the new app will make it much easier for people to miss out less.

@hudsonperalta @richpleeth @supmenow Yes :)

@hudsonperalta @supmenow They do indeed! Try it out and let us know any feedback :)

@guerranatasha We used to use 2000metres to 20metres but now we have switched to walking time as it was easier for users to understand. Thanks for checking it out, glad you like the design

@guerranatasha @richpleeth It's really interesting because we can only be as accurate as Apple location will let us. So it ends up being a trade off between battery and accuracy. For example, in our office, the location api thinks we're 2000m east of where on wifi. We could use super accurate navigation but the problem is that our batteries would go boom boom. So as Rich says, we've moved it to walking location (25mins to 5mins) for the reason that you say, I live 10 mins away from x rather than 1400m. We've also got some really interesting experiements in the pipeline for location :D

@seanevd Nope we're a separate app! :) Check us out.

@_sergeh Hey, what do you mean? How do you think we could improve this ?

@_sergeh We have added a hide me' option so it's really easy to take yourself off the radar.

@jcampbell_05 Just poking around. I think there isn't anything to improve per se. Some people will find this ok but some will never find any sort of location sharing ok.

@_sergeh Fair-enough :) Hopefully in the future we can implement some features for those people.

@jcampbell_05 I'm sure the market for those that are ok with sharing their location is big enough, best of luck!

@bentossell Notifications are super important for us so we're working hard on that to ensure they are relevant but we've had some great feedback of users using Sup when they are in new locations to see who's around

@richpleeth yeah I understand that but for me it would be more relevant to have as a message then can message my friends straight from there. Also how does it compare to Drop Messages?

@bentossell You can message your friends straight from notifications on Sup. Drop message is really interesting but is rather passive and not constantly on like Sup so you get alerts without checking in or posting an instagram photo.

@bentossell @richpleeth Some features are similar i.e we notify you when a friend is nearby without you having to do anything. We are big believers in allowing you to use the app without using the app or "invisible apps" as you put it. What would you like to see added to Sup ?

@jcampbell_05 @richpleeth well I just think it could run in the background and text me when certain friends are close. You can have the app to set up the preferences e.g. only tell me mark is close on a Friday because I wont get to work the next day etc I already have too many ways to message my friends. Honestly I don't need another one. So why not take this to where people are already using messaging on a HUGE scale?

@gabriel_whaley Awesome, Gabriel - thanks so much! Hide Me can turn it in to a pretty interesting 'avoid my friends' too. P.S. 'to toss a sup'... I like that.

@gabriel_whaley Stoked that you like distance in time! We're very happy with it. Still a long way to go so keep watching ;)

@cyhwuhx Latitude's creep factor was that you could pinpoint anyone anywhere in the world. With Sup you can see if someone is in your area but not their exact location or direction. Have a play and let us know what you think.

@richpleeth That's now how I experienced it back then (or now with Swarm). Being to see where anyone is, is fine. That was the entire point. The creep-factor with Google Latitude that made most of my inner circle drop out were the notifications of someone being near by. (Another problem was that Latitude had 'American' notions of what was deemed near by, causing puzzled looks in the Netherlands.) I know Swarm is being used in this way, the check-in gamification stuff is not nearly as important as just being able to see if someone is at an event, location or other gathering site. (The gamification thing even became bothersome and caused me to eventually quit it.) In short, the creep factor experienced within my network was being forcefully reminded that someone was near, which felt like being a stalker. Searching someone on your own accord was experienced as something completely different; more akin to making a phone call to see if someone was near by. Might give it a spin later on, but based on my own experiences I am mainly curious how you concluded the pinpointing was the creep factor among your target audience.

@cyhwuhx @richpleeth Hey Vincent, the creep factor with Latitude or with any other map based system is that someone can directly see where people are, who they are with and make some pretty significant assumptions. Who stayed with who last night, why were you there then etc. Not only this but I could, sitting in London, see what people in NYC where up to. To us, this is super stalker level :) I do take your point about notifications. Notifications are super interesting because if done correctly they can be very powerful. If done badly then it's #delete. We've got a long way to go to get notifications smarter (for example, I don't want to know when my neighbour comes home every night). Do take it for a spin and let us know what you think! Thanks Vincent, AB.

@ourmaninto Thanks for the feedback Peter. Really interesting stuff. This is exactly why I love the PH community! We're very focused on creating a product that users feel comfortable with using. We seem to be striking a good balance of enough discretion to avoid the creepiness, with enough hyperlocal information to facilitate meet-ups #IRL. Serendipitous moments are happening as a result of Sup, which is exactly what we want to see. How do you feel about the 'creep factor' in relation to Sup? Danny re discl: nice! This is very interesting.

@ourmaninto Thanks so much Peter. We're working hard to try and address a lot of this whilst keeping the tracking factor out. Would love to chat more about your linkedin GPS experience. R

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@richpleeth @supmenow Sorry but how's this different from "Nearby Friends" in the Facebook app? And what exactly does "Sup" do that makes it "creep-free"? Thank you

@huntergray @supmenow Hi there, you can't see a friends exact location on a map just if they are in your area which can be up to 25minutes away or as little as within 5minutes. It's not directional so you can't actually track friends. We also have a hide button, so you can just tap and take yourself off the radar.

@felipecn Swarm is more of a social hyper local game. It's geared towards winning points, unlocking achievements and gaining stickers. Our philosophy is to become a "Tool for discovery".Although right now we only allow you to discover who's nearby, talk to people and also to get notifications when a friend enters your area; We have big plans for the future to expand on this. We believe this adds a lot more value to your life than gamification.

@williamb3ntley @joinflash Thanks so much Will! Very kind of you! I think we will definitely take you up on that!

@williamb3ntley @joinflash I hear you, sometimes mothers (or fathers) for instance would love the opportunity to have lunch, having been invited to a local cafe. so whilst there is a privacy issue, this offers a great get out of the house solution also, for some. And the cafe could offer a special for the small group.

@kevinmineyours @williamb3ntley @joinflash Great, we're looking at this as well with an option called flares.

@kevinmineyours ha did you just ask me out on a coffee date through confusing code words? Also @producthunt it is absolutely inexcusable that when someone clicks on a notification about a comment it doesn't take you directly to where that new @ comment sits in the page. -1 ph, -1...

@williamb3ntley @producthunt Easy tiger, sup ing alone are you ?

@tsunaze Hey Pierre-Marie! Funny you should say that... that's exactly what we have. Thanks so much - really appreciate your support.

@tsunaze You can indeed! Thanks so much. Any feedback let us know!

@tsunaze just your great instinct hah. Thanks!

@jcampbell_05 Love the idea and design! What I'm interested in is how high the battery drain is that comes with the permanent localization?

@philipkuklis We use the background location updates in iOS. This technology consumes a low amount of power as our app doesn't need to monitor your location constantly. iOS detects when you've moved a significant distance (via cell towers) and lets the app know. Our current measurements show us using as little as 2% battery (The same as your lock screen or apple mail).

@kevinmineyours within 25minutes walking to within 5 minutes walking. :) We used to have it in metres and yards but user feedback made us clear this up.

@kevinmineyours hey man, it's always long days with our startup :) But we have a great time. We have got some really valuable feedback which has been great. Time to open our next funding round. Thanks!

@kevinmineyours 12 hours ago, we were handing out flyers in East London. Now I'm in the office replying to amazing feedback. Been an exhausting but incredible day. I really do appreciate your support. Thanks Kevin. I'm amazed by how well the PH community seem to have taken to the product. The competitive part of me is disappointed we're not at the top, but the rational part is very content :)

@richpleeth If each user could collect 3 favourite meet-up locations (when they become visible) could this be a way of building revenue ? The suggested site could then be approached to be a permanent fixture for a small fee ?

@kevinmineyours That's an interesting idea. We're talking to a couple of ibeacon companies who want to integrate with us which I think could be exciting.

@williamb3ntley @kevinmineyours We're ready!