Notion
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The all-in-one workspace
Ivan Zhao

Notion 2.0 — The all-in-one workspace - notes, tasks, wikis, & databases

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Notion is the all-in-one workspace. From notes, tasks, wikis, to database, Notion is all you need. Works great for teams and individuals. Available in the browser, iOS, Mac, and Windows.

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Ivan Zhao
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Hunter
Hey Product Hunt, Notion founder here. About 1.5 years ago, we released Notion 1.0 on Product Hunt. At that time, the company was just my cofounder Simon and I, and we were nearly running out of money (thanks mom for the bridge!) If not for the Product Hunt launch and the overwhelming support from this community, we wouldn't have made it... Today, we are launching Notion 2.0. In all honesty, Notion 2.0 is really the 1.0 for us. It finally delivers on our promise – a singular tool that handles all your work outside email and Slack. With the addition of tables, Kanban boards, and calendars, along with the existing notes and wiki features, we think we have done it with this release – Notion is now truly the "all-in-one workspace". We have all kinds of users running on Notion every day, from larger customers like Airbnb, Intercom, and Slack, to small creative agencies around the world, or just individuals who want a flexible notes app to stay organized. We want Notion to grow into the general purpose tool for our generation, very much like what Microsoft Office did a couple of decades ago ;-) Next up: - Android app (This could be as soon as early April!) - Much better mobile and offline experience, especially for iPad. - ... and many more. Message us your requests in the app (via the little '?' on the bottom left), and we'll build it. Thank you again for this community. We wouldn't be here without you guys. Ivan Cofounder, Notion
Jacob Bøtter
@ivanhzhao A big thanks from me. Currently paying for Notion as its an indispensable tool for writing my next week, pretty much everything is being done in Notion and with the latest update I am heavily considering moving *everything* in the process to Notion. The tool also gets a nice shout-out in the book itself!
Andrew Mutavdzija
@ivanhzhao hi, thanks for your hard work on an excellent tool. question, though: where is v2.0? App store still lists 1.1 and no update available...?
Samuel Beek
@ivanhzhao First of all: congrats on the update. My company uses Notion a lot and I think these are great improvements. One thing I'd say is a hassle in your service right now and might help adoption for Notion inside companies, is that it's hard to integrate with other tools. I agree that it's best to have everything in one place but the reality is that it's very hard to switch a whole company and all its tools at once. So are you considering building integrations or a more powerful way to embed other tools, like how Slack does that? I think it'd be great if I could somehow link my kanban tool to my teams notion page. Is iPad a big market for you at the moment and is that why you're prioritizing it?
Joseph Wood
@ivanhzhao @andym_dc - This is what I've been wondering all day. I'm super excited to try it out, but I have no idea when it's actually coming out. I assume it's an update that is being rolled out some time today, but I don't really know.
Desmond
@ivanhzhao @samuelbeek +1 Really really want tighter integrations.
Nagarjun Palavalli

I want to move from Evernote (I am a premium subscriber) to Notion, I really do but I don't think Notion wants me to. Whatever I am about to say, I say it with nothing but respect for Notion and in the hopes that it will continue to improve at the same pace.

First, the good - Notion has the best note editing interface I've ever used. A close second might be OneNote (it's a high bar, mind you) and Bear. It combines the simplicity of Evernote or Markdown with the power of OneNote although, it is missing the ability to use handwriting and doesn't support iPad with Pencil just yet. When it does, it will be perfect. I also like that I can save code snippets. Why is this so hard for Evernote?

Notion 2's tables, boards and other updates are huge. While I'm sure the in-built kanban board is not as feature complete as Trello, it should be more than enough for most projects. Same for tables. Airtable has a bunch of really cool advanced features but for most use cases, tables within Notion are just fine. Notion is on the right path and I am sure these features will only improve.

Now for what I don't like - The price is definitely my number one complaint. I will happily pay for Notion when it can do everything that other apps can. Until then, why not let me stay connected to the product with a cheaper paid plan or a better free tier? I pay for Evernote but if I were to consider switching, I can't do so purely because Notion doesn't do a bunch of things that Evernote can (even though it does a lot of things that Evernote doesn't) - Chrome extension to clip articles, emails, images etc., powerful mobile app with business card and document scanning, iPad support etc.

At $8 a month, it is more expensive than G Suite on a per-user basis. Why not give me 100 - 200 free blocks per month? Let me grow to love it. Let me build a workflow around it. Give me some incentive to tell my friends about it. When you have the features I want (I'm sure you're working on it), let me pay for it.

Price aside, I would also like to see how Notion fairs for quick note-taking, It's designed to be a wiki-style product and I get that but I'm sure a LOT of people are using it for personal notes. I use Evernote to save one-line notes - phone numbers, quotes, URLs etc. Notion's wiki-style UX is too heavy duty for that kind of use. It would be really cool if there was a "scratchpad" or "quick notes" feature that was not as heavy duty. For these simpler notes, I don't want to organize them into pages, I just want to save them and may be tag them. Which brings me to another feature I could really use - tags. Why limit users to only folders? Why not allow users to just tag notes?

I could go on but ultimately, I won't be switching to Notion right now, even though I really want to. Cost is too prohibitive but I'm sure I'll be on the hunt for future updates.

Pros:

- BEST & most powerful editing interface hands down

- Brilliant, simple UX

- Lightweight Kanban and Airtable-like tables are huge

Cons:

- COST: Highly prohibitive free tier

- No way to organize random snippets

- No browser extension, no handwriting support

- Mobile scanning

Rick Sheahan
It does not do really well at quick note taking or brainstorming alot. I use mind maps or just Bear if I have to.
Charles
They do have a Personal Plan now and it's really cheap. They set the barrier for entry quite low. I hope you consider. I love this app :)
Saad Kamal
Its only 4 bucks right?
Dragan Babić
An incredible update! Any plans on integrating with Zapier? I'd die for an option to be able to send stuff into Notion.
The Sultan of Sex
@draganbabic I need this as well. The ability to tie Zapier into Airtable / Asana is crucial for me.
Jerome Darker
@draganbabic @thesultanofsex +1 This would be very helpful
Ivan Zhao
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Hunter
@draganbabic It's in our top 5 requests right now ;-)
William Nutt
@draganbabic @ivanhzhao Add my vote, please! I can't fully "replace" my other tools until this is in place.
Rick Sheahan
@draganbabic @ivanhzhao Please if you do that then make an API so that automation / integration nerds and/or software developers can use it more flexibly without having to use fairly limited services like Zapier. (along with IFTTT, some of the least capable automation via visual interface services. idk why others arent more popular.... I would rather just write a nodejs script, an applescript, a bash script, a python script, or an alfred workflow anyway)
Lee Fuhr
I love the potential to replace Asana with Notion. Any plans to add recurring tasks? Task dependencies? That kind of tasky magic… ✨
Antoine Plu
I've been using Notion 2.0 for weeks now, this release is just amazing! 🙏🏻 So glad to see it live, they added what was missing without having too many features, it's perfect!
Mike Bracco
Feature Request - It would be cool if there was a workspace setting only accessible to workspaces with a single user called "Turn on Single User Mode". If turned on the distinction between "Workspace" and "Private" would go away as well as any other features that were not applicable to a single user workspace. While the product still works great even if using it alone it would be awesome if these elements could be removed for a single user to clean things up even more....especially for an OCD minimalist like myself :). I understand this might go against monetization goal and building paid teams though. Awesome product!
Rick Sheahan
Notion is so powerful, it's the first thing since mind mapping to seem like a viable way to get out my rapid stream of thoughts and organize them! The new release, from my short view is just another step in a massive featureset that feels like the perfect mix of desktop wiki, notes app, markdown (or markdown-esque) editor, with collaborations and now tables. My only issue is.... it's so much! I am overwhelmed with the abilities and have trouble building workflows that I can use with ease or quickly enough to not just resort to bookmarks or bookmark service extensions and notes widgets. It would be super cool to see interviews with devs ala thesweetsetup (and im sure plenty of other sites) to see how they use Notion for whatever, to get inspiration. Takes the onus off of the team to make tutorials that are subjective, too, so you don't limit imagination with your knowledge-base.
Rick Sheahan
these seem to be along the lines of what I'm looking for, but not always great quality and very few, limited perspectives. (sorry, the thumbnails auto appear)
Raphaël Chabaud
@cucumbur Same for me. I believe all-in-one products will always be less refined than specialized platforms. It is more tools to maintain but they come together well with tools such as Station. Notion is still an impressive product and one of the best note taking app on the market with evernote, slite, bear...
Deepak Yadav
@cucumbur Why I created Obsidian OS I am a product designer and founder of 3 companies. Running companies, managing projects and personal life are altogether a complex objectives. I wanted to create a system to eliminate noise and build a kind of second brain. Notion as a product is very unique and a powerful tool which I used to create a system: Obsidian- Unified workflow notion system. The main concerns with these type of systems are they tend to break easily and needs lot of efforts or inputs to manage a Notion system. So I built this system in a manner that it takes very minimal efforts to manage and will be self expandable so that it doesn't break easily. Obsidian Notion System added value to my life and helped me reduce noise around me. So, I would like to share this system with rest of the world. Life is a game of patterns. The more we observe and analyse them, the more deeply we understand how the world works around us. One of the key insights of the systems approach has been the realization that the network is a pattern that is common to all life. This Obsidian OS is conceptually designed based on patterns and how each relative components functions effectively to work as a second brain for an individual. The system is organized into 5 Key Sections: Plan: Area dedicated towards planning, goal discovery and vision map. Work: Area focused on work related components to manage assignments and projects Review: Comprised of area which requires information analysis and review Track: Area focused on dynamic components which requires constant tracking Extras: Area contains additional sub areas like Personal space, dashboard, Shortcuts and database. Includes: Obsidian OS includes Notion template and all additional components associated with system efficiency and accessibility. 30+ Template sections 200+ Resources 20 Widgets (Including setup documentation) Icon library (Minimalistic - Light and Dark) Document Library (Agreements, Proposals and Templates) Notion Setup Guide (Sections in templates)
Bryan Alcorn
Why limit the free version to only 600 blocks? I find it to be a great app, but I can't use it anymore, and it doesn't offer that much value over any other tool like Trello, Dropbox paper, Quip, or Google Suite besides the beautiful UI. I have no incentive to upgrade. Why not limit some functionality instead for the pro version like Evernote instead of limiting the overall number of blocks I can write.
Ivan Zhao
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Hunter
@alcornkid Hey you noticed! Our pricing is not great at the moment. We are working on it, possibly bring back the old referral system in a month or two also. Since you are a student, message us in the app for a free account. And I disagree with you that Notion doesn't offer much value over other tools. You need to try it to see it ;-)
Ashwin Manghat
Hey. Loved the product at first use. Although a lot of feature seem very similar to coda.io. has anyone used both? Any advantages / disadvantages?
Thibaut Davoult

I signed up for Notion yesterday to collaborate with only 1 other person on our blog's content, and I was immediately blown away by how awesome it is. Notion just works. It does everything I expect it to do without trying to sell me stuff or to get me to use more features. I can just open it (so far only tested the web app) and start typing away my thoughts. The real-time collaboration works without any glitch which is a feat in and of itself.

Honestly very excited about this 2nd version, which comes as a total surprise: the v1 looked very much like a final product and the definite answer to all my issues collaborating efficiently at work.

Pros:

- User friendly and simple to use

- One of the best typing experience I've had, if you feel great typing on Medium, you're in for a treat!

Cons:

- I didn't feel the need to try the desktop app yet (macOS). Is that really a con though?

Ben Parker
I've been using this in beta and it's SO AMAZING! Glad I can now use all these awesome features with my team!
Vinay Hiremath
Notion is what the Loom team uses exclusively for all documentation. We've moved *everything* over to Notion. I'm so excited to be able to give the team an upvote here! I use Notion for personal tasks as well now, and I love that Loom videos expand and play inline in Notion. :-) This is how wiki software was always supposed to be done.
Matt Ragland
@vhmth was just thinking about this! How was the transition for documentation from whatever you were using before?
Frank Denbow
Been using notion for the past few weeks and really like it. I feel like I'm not using it to its fullest capability though, wish they had a full on tutorial showing how all of their features can be used in context (the examples on the homepage are a good start). Letting people create these workflows and share them (or if notion gives you some of these templates) would help in getting people setup.
Rick Sheahan

I worked at a company that made a B2C Zapier/IFTTT type of service, but with much more powerful visual scripting builder that was actually not terrible. 3rd parties or in-house contracted developers would build a "connector" for every possible API, abstracting them into these visual blocks / methods with some parameters or whatever they needed to make sure the API calls were valid. (or webhooks). It honestly was great software (the main part, anyway) with a lot of capability, and took things like Workflow and Stringify or MS Flow (not to mention Zapier and IFTTT) to the best possible extent. Non-devs could make automations in a way I would say is most similar to Alfred's workflow builder.

Notion has no public API, and no integrations, and this means that if you are at all interested in automating processes, integrating apps, etc, it's useless. It is essentially just a vault of all my stuff now. I cant send a text snippet on iOS from Drafts to it using a share/activity extension (the stuff in the menu with the box with an upwards pointing arrow), or other iOS automation tools like Stringify and Workflow and IFTTT, HomeKit itself (orSiriKit), Buffer, Pythonista/any code editor that allows automation, Launcher/Launch Center Pro, Airtable, Skyvia, or whatever alternative universe where I use Mulesoft, Azuqua, Integromat, Piesync, expensive bespoke ZWave software, and I can't use it in Alfred, Keyboard Maestro, Hazel, BetterTouchTool, IFTTT, Zapier, Automator, homecoded solutions, or any of the stuff off this list: https://www.producthunt.com/alte...

(also, tasker for android)

So now I finally perfectly organized my OCDish PTSDish generally racing with thoughts-brain, only to be locked in with out a single way to interact with other apps.

Bare minimum: can we at least get some quick updates to expose and document like, iOS URLs or SOMETHING? i.e. http://developer.fulcrumapp.com/...

Pros:

The new features are well documented, and it has near feature parity with an entire productivity suite!

Cons:

It is hermetically sealed; there is no way to integrate it with anything else (developer, enthusiast, or businessperson), extremely limiting

Sahil Sardessai

This is by far the best collaborative tool me or any one else in my team has used in a while. We've been using this tool for a while to collaborate and document our work. It's still in its infancy, and is growing fast. The customer support is just crazy good!

Pros:

The best customer service! Oh, and... a fast, always live, minimal, clean, and native interface that's smooth�—such a pleasure to work on.

Cons:

Needs a chat feature, a refresh button, and better columns/blocks.

cacarr
The desktop apps are Electron, right? But there's no Linux version?? That's sort of the thing about Electron -- it enables *cross-platform* apps. Otherwise, Mac and Windows people would probably really prefer native apps. If you have an Electron app, it's really not that difficult to support Linux. It ain't tough to install Ubuntu in a VM on your Mac.
Arpit Choudhury
Just can't stop using it ever since I started. I use it to write articles, take notes, save code snippets etc. Can't wait to get started with Tables.
Logan Honeycutt
Notion is my favorite tool EVER, you guys have a lifetime customer here. I'd do anything for Zapier integration though.
Rick Sheahan
@growwithlogan Even better, just a decent API. I'll do the damn IFTTT / Zapier / Workflow / Stringify integrations if i have to lol, just give us an API
Zee M Kane
I've been using this in private beta and can't emphasise enough how impressed I am with what the team have built. I was impressed with Notion 1.0 but never felt it did anything quite good enough to replace other products ... Notion 2.0 is a different story. This can legitimately replace your task management app (particularly Trello), your spreadsheet app (e.g. Airtable), your notes app (e.g. Evernote), your documents app (e.g. Dropbox Paper), Lists/Outliner (e.g. Workflowy) and it integrates them all incredibly elegantly - on desktop AND mobile. Massive kudos. Haven't been as excited about a product like this in literally 8+ years.
Rees Vinsen

HANDS DOWN 🙌🏼 THE BEST PRODUCTIVITY, ORGANISATION AND RESOURCE WORKSPACE myself or my team have ever touched 💯

We're huge advocates of Trello, power-users of Slack, data-hungry Google Sheet/Doc fanatics and unloyal downloaders of many productivity, Wiki, task management and organisation apps. With my CTO I often mused the idea of building an all-in-one workspace for internal use that sat as our Pandora's box of goodies ranging from development wiki's, onboarding information and branding resources all the way to task management, meeting notes and even time tracking - lo and behold I stumbled across this gem of an app.

We decided to run Notion for a week in tandem with Trello (for our highly-granular level project management) starting by spending an hour in the evening porting over info to populate a few spreadsheets, wikis etc. I also went ahead and threw personal pages up to trial it on an individual level. 📝Note: if you have a super high turnover of to-do's and an active team you won't find switching over from another app to be a lengthy process. After 6 years of managing a creative agency I reckon I have seen enough task management and organisation apps to last a lifetime, so take my thoughts here with that consideration.

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After a week we drew the following conclusions:

⏱ We worked faster with Notion than we did with Trello, Evernote or even a physical whiteboard.

📦 Today I solely used Notion for the entire workday. This time last week I would have used Trello, Slack (sending meeting notes and memos), Google Sheets, Google Docs, the native OSX notes app and GithubWiki just to get my day ORGANISED!

📚 Managing client editorials, project budgets, to-do lists and even basic memos and planning has been a breeze. It's great as a lightweight CRM too.

🛠 We were more organised than ever before. It's great to have a knowledge base for our products, plans and company sitting right amongst our task management tools.

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We have also been left wanting for nothing (👏🏼 Congrats, Notion team) but dreaming of a few things:

💵 Beefier finance organisation/support. Integrations with Quickbooks, Xero maybe? Make it easier to build budgets and organise our money plans!

🗣 Room to annotate and collaborate on images/PDF's etc.

🔐 Function to lock pages so you can't edit, and the little hover tooltip to edit doesn't show up.

🎨 Integration with design apps - Sketch, UXPin, etc. Many many many creatives will use this app and be left wanting in this area. Think: a creative agency collabs, annotates, refines, develops and more...keep them in Notion.

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The TLDR: Notion 2.0 kicks a** and we'll be using it for a long long time in place of a myriad of other productivity apps and tools. You should too.

Pros:

- Clean, unobtrusive and customisable UX

- Lightweight and unrestrictive

- Perfect balance of tools

- Best productivity app I have ever used

Cons:

- A document/page 'lock' so you aren't prompted to edit would be nice

- No usability, UX, functionality or other cons

Rees Vinsen
Okay so after using Notion 2.0 for two months I have a few more comments to add, moreso if anything is hinging decisions on the prognosis of long-term use. For any agile-esque or multi-layer project or task planning it does lack a little support. For super granular planning, you may be better looking at a planning-specific application like Taiga or something. That is to be expected though - it's kinda like taking a sportscar 4wd-offroading; it'll get you there but it's not made for it. Our only other gripe is where it comes to support for financial planning, such as lightweight budgets or cost tracking. Understandably it's not meant to be used for heavy financial/numerical calculations or planning, but it is something that we are left wanting for. It's nothing bad - simply if you're looking for anything more than lightweight planning you're better off sticking to your spreadsheets. I do want to reaffirm that these aren't marks against my review or recommendation - they're simply very small things that could make Notion all the more powerful as the app progresses. If you're looking at taking a large team over or if you spend majority of your day working out of productivity apps then hopefully these reflections after two months of use will help you. Still a stellar app 👍🏼
Boštjan Bregar
Will try it out. We currently use Trello a lot and I like this alternative kindly presented by you.