Wormhole — Simple, fast, and private file sharing ✨

@booligoosh I think Firefox Send shut down because of abuse. We'll deal with that when it becomes an issue. But we have some ideas. We'll add a "Report" button which allows the reporter to send us the bad files for analysis and ban IPs which continually send reported files. More speculatively, we can include client-side malware scanning and use fancy crypto to attest to the server that the files have passed the scan before we authorize upload. Worst case if it came down to it, we could require an account to send files, but we want to avoid that if we can. End-to-end encrypted messaging apps like Signal manage to fight abuse without access to their user's messages, so we know there must be a way.

@robinkunz Thank you!

@bochkovaleks Thank you! 🤩

@feross God I wish this was open source. Been looking for something like this for a while that’s white label.

@j_holtslander What do you need the whitelabel version for? Send me an email and we can chat

@eugenehp Thanks!

@dudehere We have a lot more information about our philosophy here: https://wormhole.app/about and about our security design here: https://wormhole.app/security

@aimanfarooq Right now we don't offer that option, but that's a great suggestion and we'll add it to the list.

@iprashantpillai Thank you Prashant! We tried really hard to make the UX and UI something really special! We're working on an option to respect the user's "Prefer reduced motion" operating system setting.

@iprashantpillai We just added support for reduced motion! https://twitter.com/Wormhole_App...

@ferminrp We're planning to introduce a Pro plan for sending extremely large files.

@ferminrp @feross another feature idea for Pro would be extended lifetime for the files (or even custom)

@ferminrp @giuseppegurgone Great suggestion, we'll add it to the list.

@ferminrp @giuseppegurgone @feross might be good to include white label in the pro plan. This looks like a good solution for a problem that my company is facing.

@ferminrp @giuseppegurgone @darren_t_jansen Can you send me an email to (my first name AT my first name DOT org) with information about what problem your company is trying to solve? Thanks!

@vasgo Wormhole is faster than other services because it uses peer to peer transfer. That means when you're sending files between two devices on the same network the files don't have to go Up to the cloud and then back down to your recipients device. They can get sent right over your home network. Also, wormhole gives you a link to share to your recipient within a second or two. No need to wait for the file to fully upload to the cloud before you can get a share link to send. Just copy the link and send it, and let the file upload keep going in the background.

@mandeep But isn't this true of products like 1Password and LastPass too? Couldn't they just steal your master password when you type it in? I publish open source software that is downloaded 500 million times per month and is used in almost every JavaScript project. If you find any security issues with the design or the implementation, you can report the issue to us and we'll promptly fix it and offer you bug bounty reward.

@feross Hmm... I guess so. I suppose I personally find it hard to wrap my head around secure methods that aim to (effectively) reduce the trust one has to place in the service provider, but suffer from that fatal flaw I mention. The way I see it: with Dropbox, whilst they have the private key, one trusts them not to go around reading people's files casually. IMO the same applies to services like this; one has to trust the operator isn't going to introduce malicious JS. Maybe I just have a weird, minority perspective on this. In any case, the product – and particularly the UI – looks great. I think what I particularly like, compared to Dropbox/GDrive/etc, is not the security aspect but the no-account-necessary, speedy drag-and-drop a file and immediately see the link. It works super fast with no hassle. Wish you the best of luck with the project :)

@mandeep I totally understand your perspective. Auditing a web app is always a challenging prospect, but I think that what we're aiming to do counts for something. For example, I trust 1Password more than other password management services because they claim to employ end-to-end encryption, even though I can't fully verify that fact when I use their web interface. It's still better than a service that doesn't make any such claim. That said, we want to do more to re-assure users with concerns similar to yours. We're going to open source the cryptography code and explore building other types of client frontends, including potentially a CLI client, so you can be more sure that the code hasn't changed out from under you when using Wormhole. And I totally agree with you re the user interface and no accounts needed. The truth is that, for most people, an app with better security or privacy alone isn't ten times better than an insecure or un-private alternative. Most people just don't understand or care about the details of the apps they use. This may be starting to change, but to make an app that is truly "better" for most people, you need more than just better privacy and security. The app, holistically, needs to be ten times better.

@runtcpip For files up to 5 GB, Wormhole stores your files on our servers for 24 hours. For files larger than 5 GB, Wormhole uses peer-to-peer transfer to send your files directly from your browser to the recipient. So you'll need to keep the page open until the recipient downloads the files.

@atmos_black THANKS! We host your files for 24 hours, but we're considering supporting up to a week as an option.

@harsh_gelda Did you receive an error? What browser are you using?

@harsh_gelda Are you sure that you waited until the files were fully uploaded before you closed the tab on the sender side? Also, how large were the files? We don't store files larger than 5GB on our servers – so for those you'll need to keep your browser open on the sender side.

@harsh_gelda Okay, we're looking into this. Thank you.

@angelinetan Thank you Angeline!

@angelinetan Thank you Angeline! Speed was our #1 priority. So we built a service that's as fast as possible, without sacrificing security and privacy of your files. Thanks for your kind words.

@geffrey Thanks for the kind feedback, Geffrey! Really nice of you!

@emindeniz99 Thanks for the great suggestion to add QR code support. We'll do that in the coming days.

@darren_t_jansen It's a web app that you can install through Chrome - known as a "progressive web app" or PWA. It should integrate quite nicely with your operating system – should appear when you Control+Tab or Command+Tab (on Mac), and appear in the Start Menu or Dock (on Mac). All files are encrypted locally with a secret that is known only to you. The server has no way of seeing your files.

@xd1936 Yes, this is an independent protocol and implementation. It's much closer in spirit to Firefox Send, if you remember that service.

@nazim_m @benoit_chambon We have a Security page where you can read about the security design. Product Hunt isn't letting me link it, but you just add /security onto our site URL.