Marc Perel

Thought Train 2 - Stop using Sticky Notes, this is your new quick note taker!

Replace your Sticky Notes with Thought Train 2, the perfect note taking app for taking quick notes and accessing them immediately.
An app built for your Mac menubar or PC taskbar.
🚨Due to COVID-19 Thought Train 2 is now free until the end of April 🚨

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Marc Perel
🚂 Choo Choo Hunters! It's me again, here with an updated version of Thought Train, which almost exactly a year ago sky rocketed to Product of the Day on Product Hunt. 🛑 📒 Now you can can REALLY forget about sticky notes, because for the past three months, we have been working hard to build a brand new version of this must-have productivity tool for anyone who needs to take quick notes and access them immediately. ❓We've had beta users and we've been the new product ourselves intensively, making sure it stays true to the original app's lightweight nature, all the while adding only features that enhance productivity. 🚨The features that have made launch are below 🚨 ✅ Cloud syncing with full note encryption. ✅ Drag & drop re-ordering. ✅ Edit, copy and paste functionality for quick use. ✅ A full markdown editor for more in-depth note taking. ✅ Cross-device compatibility. ✅ A shortcut key for quick app access. ✅ Windows and Mac support 💰The app is priced $19 once off and there's a 7 day trial to get used to the app and make your decision. 🧾Of course, Hunters will get a coupon code if you use the app and decide you want to extend passed your trial period. 🤔 I've love to know what ya'll think of the app, don't be shy to give me your feedback 👋 Marc
John O'Nolan
Lovely work Mr Marc. I was a big fan behind the idea of the first release, and this new one is so much more polished and clean. What was the biggest challenge with getting cross-device cloud sync working?
Marc Perel
@johnonolan John, wow thanks for the comment. So the biggest challenge was actually within the encryption mechanism, we wanted to make sure that notes are not using Google Firestore's built-in encryption, but go a step further to make sure that there's no way anyone including ourselves could know what notes our users were taking. The challenge is to make sure that encryption runs smoothly before the data is saved into the database, then decrypted quickly on the other side. The solution we came up with was to use a Google Cloud Function here which runs when ever a note is saved. That way the app only has to deal with decryption which is much much faster.
John O'Nolan
@marcperel amazing! Very cool to see the progress and updates ✊🏼
David Perel

I thought note taking using the standard Mac app would be my default but since using Thought Train I honestly didn't realise that there was in fact an easier way. Love it :)

Pros:

Super easy to use

Cons:

Not yet a mobile app

Ashley Sanders
One of the most useful tools I've had the pleasure of working on recently. I don't often end up personally using the apps I've worked on before but this one is in daily use. A really awesome concept and @marcperel really know's what users want in an app.
Tom Kennedy

I've been testing the new version for a few weeks and it's fast become an integral part of my workflow. It's the perfect companion for an avid list/note taker.

Pros:

Super simple and clean, easy to access, dark mode

Cons:

None that I can think of

Marc Perel
Thanks Tom, I remember sending it to you, I'm glad you're still using it. It's proven such a nice middle ground even for me, between my brain and my many many task managers!
Kym
Awesome release Marc! Really looking forward to tidying up the noise in my head across my devices 😺 Re-ordering and markdown are going to be a big hit for me!
Marc Perel
@kymellis Thanks Kym, me too, I didn't actually think much of cross-device functionality, until I picked up a Windows machine to do work for a specific client of mine. Now if I need to send a reminder across the two devices, I just use my own product ☺️
Arthur Sparks
Excellent product that has improved a lot in version 2. However, I am disappointed that Marc has chosen to go the subscription route. For a utility app like this, there is only so much you can add, so as I am paying each month and the total spent on the app goes up, the value I am getting out of it stays the same. I would only use this on one device so the syncing alone doesn't justify the cost.
Marc Perel
@arthur_sparks Arthur, thanks fo much for the comments, appreciate them! 👋 The subscription debate was obviously a big one for me, especially considering the first app's single-cost pricing. I have lots of features planned which will improve the productivity aspects, especially with integrations like Zapier, so I settled on a subscription pricing model. The yearly price feels more akin to once-off but of course it's up to the users.
Denis Shershnev
Great @marcperel ! I've just downloaded Thought Train. It works amazing! Good luck to you!
Vincent Denise
Congrats Marc! Thought Train is a really good product, happy to see you release the V2 after so much work.
Marc Perel
@yesnoornext Wow the Threader founder :blushing: thanks so much Vincent, I remember us talking about V1 and hope V2 is even better suited for you too
Stephanie McDonald
One of the few times I've thought, OH crap, I don't have Windows or Mac. I'm a Chrome OS user. No expectation of a product for me, but I wish I could use it, looks super helpful, and dark mode = yay!
Marc Perel
@minifury Ah Stephanie, don't worry I'm going to be building one for Chrome OS, I just need to work out how to get a Manifest file into the app :) When I launch it I'll probably have a mini-launch here or just drop you a line!
Christopher Lee
beautiful UI, I'm a bit hard pressed to pay for it though when I have a native reminders app that alerts me on all my devices.
Marc Perel
@christopher_lee4 Thanks Chris! Give the trial a go, the uniqueness of the carousel and the quick-access shortcuts are usually what sway most users. I know even some of my friends didn't use it but then got so used to it that they'll never not-use it! Let me know what you think after your trial 👋
Christopher Lee
@marcperel Sounds good! will do. Btw seeing as you just launched I have a market research service where for $12 you can ask 100 people a question then follow-up based on how they answered and even interview them! https://scoops.io/ You could ask e.g. "Do you still use sticky notes? What's stopping you from moving to a digital tool?" Anyway If you want to give it a shot feel free to sign up and let me know which email you used over Intercom and I'll pass you $12 in free credits. Best of luck otherwise! Will let you know how the trial goes.
Michael Robson
Marc sent me a beta a few months back. I was using Google Keep at the time but have fallen in love with Thought Train. It’s user-friendly, well designed and works seamlessly. Thanks Marc!
Rob Hope ⚡️Yo!

Been lucky to be testing v2 over past month or so. What a big upgrade since the initial launch ticking pretty much all the popular feature requests boxes.

Pros:

Drag n Drop notes, Markdown & Dark Mode <3

Cons:

Can't think of anything.

Hugh Lashbrooke

A slick UI makes note taking (and keeping track of notes!) super easy to do.

Pros:

So easy to use

Cons:

No mobile app yet

Rob Mackay

Great to have some outlet for thoughts and ideas that are tidy on your desktop

Pros:

Excellent way to log and access the ideas I had or things I need to do.

Cons:

Mobile app would be awesome for ideas on the move

Elliot Blackburn
Big fan of the concept, I remember using v1 for a time but had to stop as did a stint in a more locked down environment. I'm now in a more open environment and looking forward to giving TT2 a go! One question in terms of pricing, my work notes are pretty useless on my home devices and vice-versa so I've not got much of a need for the syncing. Have you considered an offline pricing tier, perhaps with a perpetual version locked licence model since there won't be any infra pricing costs? I'll be using the syncing myself for my home machines, but it would be nice to expense a non-synced version for my day job, it would also make them happier with security despite the awesome encryption model you described in another comment! I'm sure that's probably more overhead in pricing and dev than you want at the moment, but just a +1 that I'd really like that option for work environments :)
Marc Perel
@elliotblackburn Elliot thanks for the comment. Yeah I'm considering different models, I haven't considered a non-sync option because it's so tightly coupled into the app, but a team pricing model is definitely something I want to do as a few teams are using the app and I'd like to lighten the load for teammates in general.
Matt Eagar

Tried first version of Thought Train which was good, v2 has some well thought out improvements and is super intuitive.

Pros:

Shortcut access key is a winner! Not being tied to a web browser is a breath of fresh air in a word dominated by browser based apps.

Cons:

Not really a con, but a mobile app / version would be great.

Sebastian Crossa
Really dig the UI and experience you bring to the table! Great work on the launch :)
Zach McNaughtan
Will there be a mobile app @marcperel
Marc Perel
@zach_mcnaughtan Please mail me marc[at]thoughttrain.cc, I am planning a mobile app and using a PWA to test it.
Luke Wingfield Digby

Beauty in it's simplicity! Fills a gap between built in Notes and a clipboard manager I use.

Pros:

Simplicity

Cons:

None that I can see. It fills a void.