@nivo0o0 really excited to be hunted and share what we've built. looking forward to learning from the PH community!

@nivo0o0 yeah now every time I consider a new calendar I think to myself, I wonder if they'll just sell out and shutdown. High five sunrise. Oh wait, they probably aren't listening they probably are on a beach somewhere slurping mojitos. 💩😡 admittedly true of everything, not just calendars. Shorts, I'm looking at you.

@bsmartt13 @nivo0o0 I'm sure they'll be on the beach soon but for now it looks they're hard at work bringing sunrise's principles to Outlook!

@thepriyadarshy What's the difference between Sunsama that you launched in March 2015 (https://www.producthunt.com/tech...) and this version in August 2016?

@stinhambo They were two totally different products! The first thing we built (with the same name) was a social network for scheduling. Imagine LinkedIn but every profile was linked to a calendar and let you find mutual available times.

@thepriyadarshy Ah ok, for some reason, @producthunt updates the images on the original product which makes it hard to compare. There should be a sunset section of Product Hunt!

It's fixed!

@jackdweck 🌅✊

@nivo0o0 @jackdweck it turns out when you're building a calendar having the word "sun" in your name is the go to move :D

@afkehaya Thanks Alexander! We don't offer a referral program just yet. We're focusing on making sure the teams that sign up love it amongst themselves before trying to get them recruiting other folks

@travisawakens Ok thanks that makes sense.. The reason I ask is because I'm building an API and Plugin to make it super easy for you to add in-app referral features to web and mobile apps. I'm opening up a BETA at the end of this week. When you guys are ready it'd be great to have your feedback. You can check out my landing page here to learn more www.actionwins.co. If you're interested I can also send you a demo video of how it works. Congrats on the Product Hunt launch! I'm signing up for your free tier to try it out:)

@stinhambo great questions steven! We started building Sunsama as you know it now in January, it wasn't until April that we had an alpha/private-beta ready. The product was super buggy early users had to deal with duplicated events, broken event synchronization and there wasn't even a week view, just a list of events! (Among many other bugs) There's a longer story about a product we build before Sunsama, which was calendar related, that saved us a good bit of building time. Ping me personally for that. The challenges have been many, the biggest one we faced early on was an unwillingness to adopt a whole new tool for something that people felt should just be part of their calendar. It's why we've moved towards being a calendar instead of just a meeting app, like well known tools like Do, Worklife, MeetingBird, Solid, etc. We started with a really small pool of early adopters. We went out and met people whose job it was to run good meetings and we put the product in their hands. This was usually PMs. This was a very time consuming process but the most rewarding. We got to build personal relationships with our early users, learn about their meetings, calendars and teams and even sit in on their actual meetings. I think you read our case study with TINT, we did several on-sites to get a deeper understanding of how our early users actually ran their meetings so that we could build Sunsama to match current behaviors. It's crazy what you learn when you see the behavior being executed by customers instead of them telling you what the behavior is like. There's actually quite a big discrepancy. The last thing I'll touch on with our early adopter strategy was the Slack channel we created. We created a small, tight-knit community of our early adopters. This was and still is the place for them to share feedback, bugs, and make feature requests. Chat is a much better mechanism than e-mail for conversations with early users especially when you throw in a face to face meetings every couple weeks. I think this was mutually beneficial for both us and them. We had users tell us things like "I love how you guys allow users so much input. I am so invested in this product that I almost feel like it’s mine. Thank you." and we got to learn from them in so many ways. We had a place where we could do everything from share random ideas, show them early designs on sketch/invision, and get their feedback about the live version of Sunsama. I hope that helps answer some of your questions @stinhambo. Sorry for the long response!

@stinhambo of course! please send me a message at ashutosh@sunsama.com if you want to dive deeper or share your story and what you've been working on!

@stinhambo hey steven, we recently opened up our community and I wanted to give you a chance to join: https://sunsama.com/community (if you're logged in already just use the settings dropdown in the top left to select community)

@stinhambo For now, we only allow adding calendars that have been shared with account you linked to Sunsama. Better support for multiple accounts is something that's a priority for us. If you could, what kind of accounts would you want to add to your primary account? Do you have your events spread out across a number of different Google accounts?

@travisawakens Yes I have four Google accounts, Facebook and Tripit (as well as my favourite soccer team's schedule!).

@stinhambo Yowza, that's a lot to manage! Do you have a primary company/team you work for, or do all the different accounts come from doing a variety of work in different places? We've mostly been focused thus far on folks who have just one core team, so it's helpful to get a sense for how folks like you have to connect all the different dots!

@travisawakens I have a team of one (me) that manages my primary account, a shared family account, personal account and one which is kind of redundant so let's make it 3 :) Tripit has two connections really, personal (family holidays) and business. Facebook is for social events like mountain bike meetings and birthday parties! I like how I can toggle them to focus on work or personal or just have them all live so I don't double book.

@stinhambo Thanks for the clarification! I can see how being able to navigate all of those in one place would be a must have (otherwise you'd spend all day jumping from one to the other!). Strange that we can only operate in one time space and yet have accepted having such fragmented calendar spaces...

@alanmnichol hey alan, we're looking into this now, just saw it pop up a couple times in the logs.

@alanmnichol i'll let you know when we get it fixed and make sure you can try it out :)

@thomas_howard1 will do, we're all up in those nginx settings and spinning up more servers! hold tight :)

@thomas_howard1 @alanmnichol we are back in action. you should be able to create an account now 🚀 🚀 🚀 https://sunsama.com

@spencernorman Glad to have you & your crew onboard! We're looking into the best way to handle calendars of shared team interest (like an OOO calendar). The best answer I can give you right now is: support for what you're looking for should be coming soon. Something you can do that's similar is to create a 'project' that you (and your teammates) assign meetings to. This doesn't require scheduling events to special 'team calendars'- you can just schedule your events normally and tag them to whatever project you wish. Unfortunately, this might not be the best fit for your OOO calendar, since in Sunsama you can't view all the events in both your individual calendar and a project at the same time. [edit for clarity]

@ryanjamurphy Thanks! In response to your questions: - We want to make it easy for tasks you create in Sunsama during your meetings or as you go through your day to be easily exported into the task manager of your choice. In this case, Sunsama is helping you "tee up" your tasks so you can flesh them out in more depth without breaking your current flow. Also, we want you to be able to selectively pull in your existing tasks from your Asana/Jira/Trello so you can prioritize when you want to work on them (and potentially block off time on your calendar). - Yes, there are plans for native apps, but realistically they won't be shipped for at least several months. We're trying to nail the web app experience and then use React Native so we can port without a full rebuild. We're a really tiny team (there's only 3 of us), so we can only move so fast!

@mattmg83 thanks for being part of our journey mathieu! Talking with you about your process and pain points around meetings at UL has been 💯

@kinetic K! Haven't heard from you in a decade. Check it out let me know what you think :) If you're looking for more personal stuff (fb events, etc) there's some cool stuff like Fantastical and Kin. Sunsama is pretty focused on the calendar in the work environment.

@thepriyadarshy Hmm I was looking for something more personal, but I'm still gonna check this out! It looks pretty clean! :)

@kinetic just making sure to set expectations :)

@mandarparikh Thanks, Mandar! I just pulled up my notes (with Sunsama of course) of our first conversations. It was several months ago now but those early conversations really helped us get our head right and make sure we built something that works with the way real people work!