Jack Epner

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It seems like a copy of Apollo, when Apollo started (now Apollo is ramping up to compete directly with HubSpot, and has a ton of features). I mean, looks VERY much like a copy, to the point I'm wondering if you're just using their API for this.


How is this product differentiated? Apollo is now basically another HubSpot, and the pricing (at least for me, though it's not the standard pricing) makes it a no-brainer to have all those tools. Your personal plan costs more than my Pro plan on Apollo, and does next to nothing in comparison.


I'm genuinely curious who would be subscribing, other than maybe people unaware of alternatives?? I mean, for the warmup, there are already other services, as well, some of which are free, or have generous trials.


Your deliverability guarantee is the most curious aspect. You return all the money if you don't stick to that? I've been in email outreach for a long time, and promising 99.7% or higher is asking for trouble for your business. All it takes is a jackass to start sending obvious spam, and not only would that then mean he doesn't have to pay anything, but if you're using shared servers, it will lower the effectiveness of anyone else's campaigns. How are you guaranteeing such a rate??

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Ana Jaz

I'm a long-term user of this tool. I can confirm that we are easily getting 99%+ email health across all emails accounts, this tool is a lot different to Apollo. Apollo is for searching for leads, this is for cold emailing. It is hard for me to reply to each point as I'm on mobile right now and I am busy doing some things but I recommend trying it out, they're constantly releasing new updates.


It is more of a competitor to Instantly.

Jack Epner

@ana_jaz Apollo is for cold emailing, lead scoring, marketing operations, and more. Yes, it has a prospecting database. This advertises the same. I'm wondering how it's different.


You can always wait to reply...

Ana Jaz

@jack_epner I can't wait to reply sorry because I am currently busy and am basically all day whilst my pc is on.


I don't think Apollo lets you use unlimited email accounts but maybe it does idk. I don't use Apollos email sending and never would because I'd prefer to use a tool that focuses on just email sending.

Yaro Y.

Alright Jack, let’s break this down.

First off—Apollo? C’mon, man. Anyone running serious cold outreach knows Apollo is a no-go for deliverability. Their lead data is outdated, the sequences get flagged all the time, and if you’re sending from Apollo, you’re basically asking to land in spam.

So, if that’s your "Pro" plan, I gotta ask—how’s that inbox placement looking? 😬 What about reply rate? Average reply rate for our users is sitting at 6.1% right now.

Now, on to differentiation:

  1. We’re not another Apollo/HubSpot wannabe. We’re focused on getting emails delivered and replied to—not just blasting contacts pulled from a shared, low-quality database. Our AI-powered warm-up, custom domain tracking, and actual deliverability controls are what make us different.

  2. Deliverability guarantee? Yeah, we stand by it.
    You’re right—some idiot could try to game the system, but our network is private, highly monitored, and dynamically optimized. We detect bad actors way before they impact anyone else, and we’re constantly rotating & adjusting based on real-time ESP feedback.

  3. Who subscribes to us? People who care about results. If you’re looking for serious cold outreach with high reply rates and real pipeline impact, that’s our lane. Not folks scraping the same tired lead lists that 50,000 other people already emailed.

So yeah, appreciate the curiosity, but if you’re still using Apollo for outreach, might be time to rethink who’s really unaware of alternatives. 😆

Jack Epner

@yaro_y It's what you do with the data, and how you create content. A tool is just a tool. I still have not received any actual explanation of differentiation. You've simply bashed a company I've partnered with for five years that does a lot more than you've done. Having used just about every prospecting tool and CRM under the sun, not having heard of you before seems to speak more to your own business.


My last email campaign had an 18% reply rate. What does reply rate have to do with a deliverability tool - that's going to be affected by content, not technical setup or server status?


Frankly, your attitude is the biggest reason I would never do business with you. I was asking how you're different, and I still don't have an answer, just assertions you're better (you hinted at private servers for email, but said nothing more, you have not included ANY information on how you source your prospect data and why it's more reliable...). You seem to just want to make a lot of noise talking down about successful efforts of others.