Have seen so many apps on product hunt over the past few weeks. I can't remember all of them, but http://www.producthunt.com/posts... is an example. I can't really tell the difference in value proposition between them all.
@_jacksmith There are few that go with chat interface, that's true. Another one is waveapp by the way, we know all of them.
What we have at our core is not just chatting with friends over email but providing different interface for different types of email. We will take apart every aspect of email and redo UX, logic and tech part from scratch building new solution on top of email protocol. Mailburn focuses on active and business people, that's why we have email tracking and are going to add more work-related stuff later. We know that just an iPhone is enough to stay productive and you don't need to spend 3 hours managing your email every day. And we will help you spend less time on that and more on your friends and family (and girls).
You can read more on our website as well - http://mailburn.com/about
@daniel Great job with Mailburn. It's fantastic. If you guys add the abiity to replyall to create a calendar appt it will be a game changer. The only apps that do this are Outlook Desktop and Acompli (acquired by MSFT and now called Outlook for iOS/Android).
How do you track if people opened an email? (Like whatsapp does)
If you use pixel tracking that means that you access the content of my emails, so security wise how secure is this?
Also:
What if they open an email in their email client before/after? Does it synchronize in this scenario?
@orliesaurus Yes, it's done with pixel tracking. This technology is used by other large companies like Yesware and Boomerang for Gmail. So it is proven and secure.
As for the second question I didn't quite get it. Can you rephrase it please?
@orliesaurus We append pixel to your email. Or rather you do that yourself when you send a message with Mailburn. We don't have access to your account and neither do we store any of your emails or attachments. You can read more about what data we collect and why in our Privacy Policy http://mailburn.com/privacy-policy
@motosamurai Ok cool, thanks for clearing that out - it's a very important point for me and I wanted to make sure I'd get the best reply I could (from the CEO woow) :D
@ourielohayon Why do you need labels? Every time someone mentions labels we start a dialogue and get to a point that it's just a categorization system to augment search, nothing else. How do you use them?
@ourielohayon As not to dive into customer development can you please send me which emails do you rule and on what basis to daniel@mailburn.com? Thanks.
Hi Mailburn team! Really really like this idea! I'm stoked to give it a go.
My one piece of feedback is around your onboarding. I have the Google+ app installed (not sure why really...) and when I clicked to login with gmail, it took me there and didn't show the different accounts I'm logged into. I had to close that app and yours, then reopened yours and then the Google+ app worked for me to log in. Might just be me, but it was confusing and frustrating!
All in all, a super cool idea. Can't wait to see how well it works!
@sarahintampa Hop didn't exactly take off, but we got 4x upvotes. I guess it means that messaging might be a good approach to email after all. Anyway, we are not limiting ourselves to just chat-interface. As we say on our About page (http://mailburn.com/about) we want to go even further and introduce more exciting things. Give us some time and we will shape email into powerful tool that will really hook you up.
PS - I love reading your email articles on TC, I even have a special Google Alert for that :).
Your landing page physically excited me. Which is a little freaky, but means you are solving such a resonant problem in a compelling way (or at least your narrative is). I downloaded it immediately.
@nicolasegosum@motosamurai Right behind you on the PH list today is "How to raise $1M for your startup" ebook. ;)
This looks great though. Congrats on the app debut. Looks to be striking hotter than Hop did for some reason. Perhaps it's the hotter name.
@nicolasegosum@tymrtn Yes, it is the name! We love being orange, red, active and striking and hot!
And re the book - we saw that, what a funny coincidence :). Let's see if we can grab $1M to make Mailburn a blast.
@nicolasegosum Woohoo! We are 100% bootstrapped and have received zero funding so far meaning that we have very limited resources. But we will get to IMAP and multiple accounts after a while, it's a pinky promise.
App sounds great, but there's a lot of yelling going on in the copy! "Paul, it's Wednesday, wtf?" "Guys, where are the docs, I'm waiting for the final version!" Perhaps you're highlighting the way email's been made informal, but (maybe it's just me) it makes it sound a bit unfriendly.
Quibbles aside, looks like a really cool product!
@manasvinik Hehe, glad that someone is actually reading a copy :). We are sorry if those examples made you unfriendly, we will see if we can come up with something more professional and less bashing.
Kudos for comment anyway, especially for the "really cool product" part ;).
I'm curious how the app tackles this question (originally raised by @jessepollak on the Hop thread):
"My real question about all of these email-fixed type apps is whether they're supposed to be adopted for *all* our email or just some types."
@jessepollak@tymrtn We will add other email types into Mailburn later on. However we will not do email like other email clients do. We will create new suitable interface for every email type like newsletter, notifications, registrations emails, calendar events and so on. On top of that we will add crazy things to them like being able to close tasks in JIRA or Trello from email notification without opening JIRA or Trello itself.
it's a long path and we can't do everything we want in our first version. However we will add other email types step by step and move forward to email solution that covers all email communications.
Emiel, thanks for hunting us! It's great to be on Product Hunt.
Please don't hesitate to ask any questions here - we are very transparent and will answer all of them to our best ability,
@mailburnapp app is great! I've wanted email-as-chat for awhile. Any thoughts on editing the signature though? The forced growth-hacky sig won't work for my work email.
@dwightchurchill We didn't get around to implementing settings screen in our 1.1 version. But we will do that in one of the next releases. We can even charge you $1 to remove the default one, haha :D.
@dwightchurchill Oh, and we are using Localytics ourselves and it's a great tool - thank you so much! We will start paying you once we raise funding and hit 10K MAU users.
@motosamurai great! will happily spread the word until then :). Thanks, we're working hard to build useful tools for apps like mailburn. Feel free to reach out with feedback to me, dchurchill at localytics dot com.
Hustle X