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Jean Kondo

Kony Quantum - Build full, native mobile apps with low code

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Kony Quantum combines the ease of use & speed of low-code application development with the power of the leading enterprise-grade digital experience development platform. Kony Quantum enables businesses to build mission-critical web and mobile solutions.

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Andrew Gassen
Based on the pricing model, this appears to be a very different focus than a tool like Supernova, Thunkable, or Bubble. Would you say this primarily targeted at building internal apps to be used by a handful of company users? Or is it possible for an independent maker like myself to build a mobile app that can be used by thousands of people who find it on the app store?
Patrick Quinn
Maker
@betterproductco Hey Andrew, YES absolutely. I'm currently porting my other project, Broadcast (social podcast platform) over to Kony via the starter edition so I can go cross platform quickly with a single codebase. The pricing you're talking about comes from our Middleware platform, Fabric, which is great for surfacing and unearthing enterprise infrastructure but isnt needed to for indie development. You can just call a API or service directly. At the end of the day, its standard SaaS, i.e indie devs go free :)
Patrick Quinn
Maker
Hi everyone! šŸ‘‹As well as being a maker of other humble products, I'm a digital architect @ Kony and firstly let me just say, we're really excited to finally be here on ProductHunt! Given the no-code maker fest that's in full swing at the moment, we thought this would be the perfect time to introduce you to our own new no/low-code product, Quantum! šŸŽ‰šŸ„³šŸŽ‰ So If you have any questions, ranging from how the technology works, how to quickly get started at building a native, drag and drop, cross-platform (wearables āŒš, desktop šŸ–„ļø, PWA šŸŒ, mobilešŸ“±... we've got it all) prototype right through to building a more full-featured application, please don't hesitate to ask! I'm fairly confident you'll be pleasantly surprised by how easy and powerful this thing is!
Dakota Felder
Is this like that warlord but more powerful
Patrick Quinn
Maker
@dakota_felder Hey Dakota, i've actually never heard of Warlord! Would you be able to share a link to it and i'll give you a blow by blow of how we stack up?
Jean Kondo
Maker
If you're looking for a platform that gives you the flexibility to build a simple application for your employees or a more complex application for your customers, Kony Quantum provides that unified platform for rapid development with the highest levels of UX, security, performance, and back-end integration. You get the best of both worlds! Check it out: https://www.kony.com/quantum/
Edison Espinosa
I find all of these no code platforms interesting. Are they the future? Is it it a trend? Most likely. I wanted to build iOS apps, and started with those no code platforms, but honestly it was a horrible experience with very little flexibility. It's much much much easier to just learn Swift, Kotlin, etc imho . Like I get the whole let's break down barriers stuff, but I think it's better to just have a new way for someone to learn how to code in Xcode etc.
Edison Espinosa
I respect what you're doing with Broadcasts Patrick, but just wanted to see what you think and hear your thoughts on this nocode thing. I want everyone to succeed and thrive and sorry if my message can come across as negative.
Patrick Quinn
Maker
@edisonjoao6871 No I totally get it, I'm from an iOS background with a bit of Android/Java and plenty of JS in there too and I honestly came into this thing thinking that react Native or Flutter where a waste of my time and that low-code platforms were so alien and would require the same, if not more work to build across multiple platform. My mind has changed a lot since joining Kony and even more so since the Broadcast re-write. Example: What I built in 3 weeks of full time dev over the 2017 hackathon for Broadcast, I've built out between Friday last and this Monday in Kony AND its cross platform, AND I have Apple watch support. I'm now doing UI patterns that I hadn't bothered to touch on Native because they were so time intensive to get right, in minutes. The result is just a much better app overall than i'd built natively. I mean, anything you need to build outside of drag and drop you can do in vanilla ES6 Javascript with an API layer to access any of the device API and if you find a native Swift, Java, Objective C or React Native component on GitHub that's perfect for a use case, you can just drag it in an use it. I'm not selling you on the platform, this is my honest review from dogfooding the platform for the last while. So IMHO It's worth downloading and trying out (email me at patrick.quinn@kony.com if you've any questions about how to do stuff) but of course you know what works best for you! :)
Emmett Harper
@jean_kondo @patquinn Congratulations on the launch! Looking forward to seeing you guys take a big share in this low code space. Love the options of PWA or Native apps!
Patrick Quinn
Maker
@jean_kondo @patquinn @emmettapps Huge thanks Emmett! Me too! PWA is awesome and is probably the future of mobile apps but time will tell, either way, we support it fully!
Jean Kondo
Maker
@patquinn @emmettapps @patrickjmq Thanks so much, Emmett! Hope you're doing well. Yes, we're super excited about Kony Quantum! It's going to give developers the best of both worlds - the speed and ease of low-code and the power of enterprise-level development platform. That's why we call it "Low-code without Limits!!" :-)
Tanmay kapoor
Take a look at the "Events App" developed using Kony. It's a PWA app that provides end users an option to browse through and register for upcoming events: https://www.producthunt.com/post...
Logan Boyd
So can I use this to build apps for my clients? Like to help turn a website into an app for people to download and use?
Patrick Quinn
Maker
@mastemine Yep! So you could drag together a website, see how it looks on mobile and web and then output it as either an app or a website or both! Sign up to the free tier and give it a whirl, if you want a step by step on how to use the platform, you know where to find me!
Pierre Roberge

Great for people who can program but don't want to learn complex environment or object-oriented concepts

Pros:

Ease of use yet no limit on what can be accomplished. Potential seems great, will continue to investigate.

Cons:

Don't know yet

Patrick Quinn
Maker
Cheers for the great review! This is one of the strongest benefits for developers from my perspective. Having the ability to build an app on development first principles without needing needing to under stand complex concepts or platform specific patterns and nuances, is hugely powerful.
Varun Agarwal
Once the app is made, how is the code and deployment done? Do I get the code and deploy it myself or the platform does it? As in, if I make an android app, can I download the apk or code and open in Android Studio. Bit confused on how this works with low/no code platforms
Patrick Quinn
Maker
@varun_agarwal1 great question! Youā€™ve 2 options here, when you hit build you select the platform you want to target (iOS or Android or desktop etc) and youā€™ll get back a native APK or IPA, from there you can push to the various distribution channels as you would normally. The second option is to hit build and then open the project in the native SDK for each platform (thereā€™s a build folder in the project for each) and from there you can build a binary and submit to the App Store directly or the Play Store via the Android dev console. Thereā€™s also the options to perform a cloud build on our server which returns the binary for each of the selected platforms (which removes the need to manage plugins and SDKs and enables Windows build for Mac and iOS build for Windows) Because youā€™re dealing with a truly native outcome itā€™s just the standard process. I hope this helps!
Varun Agarwal
@patrickjmq Understood. So if I make an android app using this platform and sign it using keys (as required by playstore), I can later migrate to my own code and use the same keys? Low code prototyping seems like a great way to test an idea out!
Patrick Quinn
Maker
@varun_agarwal1 Yup you don't actually have to migrate to your own native code when you're done prototyping, there's nothing you can't do in basic JS and our APIs!