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ZORE-X — This gun lock is outsmarting smart guns
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@colazionearoma Pretty sure you can think of one good thing this will do to the world. No?
ZORE-X, a smart cartridge shaped lock that secures semi-auto guns from within the chamber, just launched on Indiegogo and offers a solution for gun safety that gun owners will want to own.
I have yet to meet a lock or bedside safe that I'd actually use....until now. The electronic monitoring function as depicted in the video appears to allow access to the weapon, is that right that there is no locking function during monitoring? I'd be all for single functionality and scrap the monitoring (I indicated this on the survey).
I'm in the outdoors industry and I can say with authority that if this works as depicted, you've got a hit on your hands.
@chiphunnicutt Not sure what exactly you meant by no locking while monitoring. There is the option of awareness mode in which ZORE X is not locked but will let you monitor your gun. While in awareness mode charging the gun will eject ZORE and chamber a fresh round without needing to unlock it. You can also use the Watchdog for monitoring if all you're into is the monitoring functionality.
@chiphunnicutt Chip, I'm in the same boat. Most bedside safes suck. I finally found one I like - it's a Fort Knox bedside lockbox with a simplex mechanical lock. No batteries, easy to punch in the code under stress, hard to accidentally unlock.
@crispinheneise @chiphunnicutt Can you put a link to the safe you mentioned here? Interested in seeing it.
@yachdav_gilbar @chiphunnicutt It seems like the one I have might be discontinued. It's called the Fort Knox Original Pistol Box. Here's a link to it on the Ft. Knox website: http://www.ftknox.com/product/or.... Here is a vendor with better pictures: http://www.gunsafesamerica.com/f... They have several other models - I prefer the one with the door on top because it's easier to open the top and reach down vs opening the front and reaching in.
@lorismaz From our http://www.zore.life/faq:
1. ZORE X uses a CR2 Battery that will last for more than a year.
2. Three months before your battery drains, ZØRE X will send you notifications, reminding you to change your battery.
3. One month before the battery drains, when unlocking ZØRE X, it will not allow you to re-lock without changing the battery.
4. In addition, you are able to set your ZØRE X to open automatically before draining out.
5. If your battery drains out nonetheless, you are able to connect an external battery to give it power, enabling you to dial your code and open it.
@lorismaz Our chief designer is actually a locksmith. Been playing with locks since his childhood. Getting it open requires cutting it - and then getting a way into the barrel.
One of the strengths of the lock is that the access to the locking unit is limited by the actual gun. And that trying to get it out strengthens the locking force.
@lorismaz It's for us - before it's for everybody else. So we want it to be good enough to answer our needs.
I don't like anything related to guns, but, congrats for your creation, I hope this can save lives ☺.
@gabrielreynard That's exactly what ZORE is about. We believe ZORE can save lives of at least hundreds of children every year in the US alone.
@yachdav_gilbar In a market where guns are allowed, this could be game changer on saving lives. It's all about demand and supply. Once again, congrats for the product.
My Gun safety technique is living in the UK with no Gun. I've had 100% success with it so far.
@robjbye That's great. Living in places where you don't need a gun is awesome.
@yehonatan_tsirolnik They do. It's called Mi5 with armed police (rarely seen in the UK) pre-emptively stopping them out of the public view.
@yehonatan_tsirolnik @robjbye the thing is that in the UK, if any criminal or terrorist is stupid enough to have a gun, the whole police force goes after them, even if they have fired it or not. They are given maximum priority. It's very, very effective and IMO a large reason as to why we don't have mass shootings every other week.
Anyway, this is PH, enough making this about politics.
@yachdav_gilbar This is awesome. Just picked up the ZORE X. Any plans to build a lock for shotguns?
@mattpickle_ Thank you VERY MUCH for your support! As for shotgun -not yet. If you want to help us with the decisions about the next calibers and guns we should be making locks for please fill this short survey:
goo.gl/dcbW8e
Thanks!
@yachdav_gilbar Cool, just filled out the survey. The more I look over your site and the Indiegogo campaign the more excited I am for the product. Great job and congrats on the PH launch. 👍🏼
I've been around guns my whole life and, while, not currently a gun owner due to children in the house, I would be very interested to see this in action. Unfortunately can't splurge on getting one right now as my primary handgun is being stored with my father until the kids are older. Looks like pretty great work though! Well done and hopefully the goal of improving safety for owners and those around them is successful!
Also, to those of you leaving political commentary regarding guns, please don't. That's what reddit and twitter are for. Let the product makers have their space and respect that space. They've worked hard to create something that is intended to improve firearm safety for everyone.
@dnuzum Thank you very much. It's obviously a politic issue as well - but we did put a LOT of work into avoiding political issues and making a lock that makes us as gun owners feel better about our guns' safety and accessibility. We believe that's the key for the success here. Making something that meets gun owners' values and needs (yes - people that are against guns might like it because it promotes gun safety - but that's not the point. It's for gun owners and is all about giving responsible gun owners (which are the vast majority of gun owners) an option they can use if it fits their needs.
Living in a country with very strict gun laws, i´m perplexed by the idea that you are allowed to leave guns anywhere in the house (not locked up in a safe).
And while i applaud any gun-safety measures: This is a solution for a problem that should not exist in the first place.
@tafkaf Yes it is too bad crime exists. As long as it does though, I will use whatever means that are available to defend myself and my family. I love to see products like this because it means people are thinking about the real problems facing people who choose to own a gun for self defense, rather than dismissing us as crazy and irresponsible.
@tafkaf Where are you from? + it allows extra safety in many situations in which you can't lock your gun.
@crispinheneise To me, all guns in the hands of citizens are problematic. But I feel totally safe, so i can´t relate to your need to defend yourself (requiring a gun to feel safe).
Would you agree that this is a chicken-egg-problem? I need guns because others (including criminals) have guns?
@yachdav_gilbar in Germany, you are legally required to keep guns in a certified safe, and store weapons and munition separately.
@tafkaf Not really. Criminals don't need guns to maim and kill. The first murder was committed with a stone. Crime and evil are part of the human condition. As long as there are people on earth there will be those who will do harm. But maybe ProductHunt isn't the best place to discuss philosophy? :)
Hey guys. I'm part of the ZORE team. Feel free to ask us any questions about ZORE.
We're a group of IDF Combat Veterans from Jerusalem. We launch our Indiegogo Campaign for ZORE X, a Smart Cartridge Shaped Lock That Secures Semi-Auto Guns from Within the Chamber, Preventing Unauthorized Use and Promoting Firearm Safety, while Providing Quick Access During Times of Need.
We started developing ZORE X two years ago after an incident of friendly fire in the IDF got us thinking about gun safety issues with the mission of preventing unauthorized use and promoting firearm safety, while providing quick access during times of need.
You can learn more about ZORE here: http://www.zore.life/
Interesting. Looks pretty well thought out.
The racking part wasn't very clear though - where the lock drops out and it's good to go. What's the point behind that?
@bigpicturebiz When locked ZORE X will prevent any attempt of racking the slide. After opening it racking the slide will eject the lock and chamber a fresh round.The point is to make the transition as fast as possible between locked to loaded and ready to shoot.
I was determined to not be impressed, but I failed. I am impressed. This might actually work.
@yachdav_gilbar I was determined to be unimpressed because I've seen a lot of really bad products that make similar promises. "Smart gun" tech is ineffective at best (as you pointed out in your video), and most gun locks are impossible to remove under stress. But your lock is neither of those things. It seems really well thought out. Not only from the POV of a gun owner, but also from my POV as someone who trains with guns for self-defense.
How would this work while traveling? Say for example, you locked your handgun with ZORE and packed it (according to airline regulations) in your suitcase. Would the motion alarm go crazy each time the suitcase is moved? Is there a way to turn off the alarm but keep the lock in place?
@crispinheneise The alert modes can be changed according to your use. Same goes for if you are taking guns to the range - there would be no reason for movement notifications. You'd only want dial notifications (so you know if someone is turning the dial) as well as distance notifications.
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