@drorco On the dev side, are people being paid $50 or $100 to write useful or production-ready code for the client or just to give guidance? Seems like a mixture of both from signing up as a dev and looking at the tasks that are posted.
If people are meant to write useful or production-ready code, $50 seems really low for the amount of work a few of these people are asking. I know it's early and the amount and breadth of tasks is low, I'm mostly wondering if you look at CodersClan as a better, faster eLance or something entirely different
@zackshapiro Great question! Although we do receive some tasks requesting guidance, the majority of the tasks are for writing production-ready code.
I believe what you're referring to are tasks of which customers don't necessarily know their appropriate price. In such cases, the customer starts with an initial price and after receiving feedback from coders on the price, we increase it so that it is acceptable for both the customer and the coder.
We focus on providing a seamless experience for both our task creators and coders rather than on cheap prices.
By the way, the tasks you're seeing here are only our crowd-sourced tasks which are usually guidance-related. We have a section for private tasks that sometimes requires actual server access and this is only visible to our dedicated coders.
@zackshapiro@drorco Great idea. With respect to crowd-sourced tasks and those exclusive to "dedicated coders", what is the typical number of solutions you receive? What happens to the devs / solutions who don't get chosen? Are your devs signed up today more domestic or offshore?
@zackshapiro@kicksopenminds Hey Taylor, great questions! I wrote quite a thorough reply, accidentally clicked out of the comments area and everything got delete :P
Going back to square one...
When it comes to Dedicated Tasks, only a single coder is assigned to your task, that coder provides you with the solutions needed to complete the task. Usually this will consist of 1 or 2 iterations.
If you're looking at Crowd-Sourced tasks then what usually happens is that one of the coders would provide a first solution and only if another coder thinks he/she can provide a better solution, they would bother to post their own solutions too.
Another thing is that the crowd-sourced channel is focused on the smallest code tasks that should usually take no longer than 1 hour to solve, this significantly reduces the risk for coders.
If several coders have been showing a lot of effort on a task, we do encourage the customer to either split the payment or tip the coder that that provided a somewhat useful solution.
We found that that this method increases the chances that only the best solutions are accepted and also quite fair for the other coders.
It's actually pretty interesting but we have quite a diverse selection of coders. Many from the US, Europe and Asia, can't really say any region is more dominant than the other.
Cool idea. Reminders me of Fancy Hands' integration with Asana.
I imagine many coding tasks require access to an existing codebase. How do developers get access and how do you protect a customer's existing intellectual property?
I have been using Codersclan a couple of times last year, and I can assure they provide quality work. Don't know if I will use this feature but give them a try.
This seems perfect for a non-technical founder. Though I notice most of the request seem to be pretty technical in nature. where as, I would be looking to write something a little higher level.
@dswiese Hey Sean. We have a pretty diverse selection of customers, varying from very technical, to a little-technical. CodersClan is most optimal for customers who are at least somewhat technical or have some experience with product management. Since we focus on small code tasks, or splitting big projects to small code tasks it is helpful to be able to communicate directly with the coder and to have some level of technical understanding. Seeing you're a Product Manager, I think you can be a perfect user :)
@Veedme@yoavush Definitely! Once we'll learn more on how this works out with Trello we're planning to add JIRA, Asana, Pivotal Tracker and GitHub issues. I'd love to know about other platforms you think can work out. You can also list them if you sign up to be notified about other platforms at the bottom of the page.
I've used CodersClan a few times now and have been very pleasantly surprised with the results. The model of simply taking care of one coding problem you have for a fixed amount is perfect for all those little bugs you need to kill but can't get to.
I used CodersClan in the past for some quick coding tasks, and it was great - 25$ to figure out some imagemagick gimmicks without having to spend the whole day on it - thumbs up.
Hey everybody!
Co-founder of CodersClan here.
I would love to get your feedback on our major latest addition to CodersClan - The ability to outsource code task directly from Trello.
CodersClan is a community-driven marketplace for getting code done that has been up for a short while. One of the things we've learned along the way is that even though code is a major necessity for many people, there are countless of barriers around outsourcing code, one of them is the major friction around describing a code task to a person on the other side of the world.
While gaining amazing insights from our customers, we've decided to tackle this issue by allowing our customers to outsource code tasks in the most natural manner possible - through the project management tools they already love and use everyday.
CodersClan for Trello is our first step in that direction. Just take any Trello card you have, click the CodersClan button and the task will be taken care of by one of our dedicated coders.
I'd be very happy to get your feedback and answer any question!
Dror
@marckohlbrugge Yep Fancy Hands was actually a very helpful reference to learn how we can build this.
When it comes to access to an existing code base, that's usually provided through a dedicated task which is essentially a private session with one of our certified dedicated coders. A customer can ask the coder to sign an NDA and they can communicate in any manner the want to in order to provide the necessary security measures for the code, as they see fit.
@drorco Been thinking about this the last few days, and you've won me back for Trello. Planning to try it out for more basic tasks on our new writing app: folders, in-app purchases, exporting; and keep our team's Core Text specialist focused on the editing portion.
Sidenote, I'd kind of like to be able to create the tasks directly from the Bitbucket issue tracker. I've found just keeping everything in one place to be the easiest, no multiple apps to login to.
@benwtnb Hey Ben, I'm happy to hear that I hope you'd find us useful.
May I ask what too have you been using up until now?
Regarding BitBucket, I've heard the same for GitHub issues, definitely an interesting feature to try out.
I'd tried many different solutions: Pivotal Tracker, Asana, Trello, Blossom (probably my favorite), but yeah just prefer to keep everything directly in one place now. Guess it could be said I'm old fashioned…
When I contract with someone through CodersClan I'll be giving them access to our BitBucket anyways right?
@benwtnb Our users have complete freedom on how they'd like to provide access to the needed resources. Some of our customers provide access to a BitBucket repository, some to a live server instance, some just provide a code snippet and some expect the coder to create a solution from scratch.
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