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Abadesi
POLL: Could you get by without using any Facebook products?
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I noticed that #DeleteFacebook is trending on Twitter today and it made me curious about how us makers rely on their products. While I don't use Facebook anywhere near as much as I did about 12-13 years ago in my college days, I rely on WhatsApp and Messenger to stay in touch with friends and family. Instagram is also the main marketing channel for my side hustle. I could not get by without using any Facebook products. Could you?
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Dan Edwards
I could get by, in that life would still go on without them. But I rely on them so much (in particular WhatsApp and Instagram) that I voted no. It would take a while for another product to replace either of them for me.
Abadesi
@de Same I don't really have perfect substitutes yet!
Lanre Akinyemi
I've tried to use Signal & Telegram to replace WhatsApp as my primary communication tool but everyone I talk to is on WhatsApp so for now Facebook is a given in my life.
Edison Espinosa
@lanre_akinyemi remember at one point not everyone was on Whatsapp
Abadesi
@lanre_akinyemi I tried Telegram, too but no one in my close circle was using it.
Edison Espinosa
@lanre_akinyemi @abadesi as the innovator of your close circle gotta get them on it
Maxim Leonovich
@lanre_akinyemi @abadesi You can change friends ;) jk
Alex
For all people who are not from the US - maybe we also could ask (In case that what happend in Venezuela with Adobe could happen in every country and with every (cloud) software from the US): Could we get by without using US (cloud) software in general?
Thomas Groutars
I open Instagram once in a while but could really do without. I only use Facebook for events. I deleted my Facebook account in February, but had to create it again in July because I was organizing a party. I was also feeling out of the loop when I was not aware of events happening in my groups of friends. The problem is almost all of them rely on Facebook to create or keep track of events. I got addicted to Twitter and Reddit during that time, so I'm not really sure of the benefits it had 😅 I use almost exclusively Whatsapp to communicate with my friends and family, so it would be pretty hard to drop. That said, there is only one Facebook product that I absolutely couldn't live without, and it's React 😄
Abadesi
@thomgroutars I rely on WhatsApp for friends and family, too. It's really convenient for an international community. I know what you mean about getting left out. Most people use FB exclusively for organising events and if you're not on it you don't get invited.
Emily Hodgins
Like so many others in this thread, I use WhatsApp everyday to connect with family and friends. I know there are alternatives but it's just so easy and where everyone already is. Would 100% miss it if I had to go without.
Calum Webb
I really don't think that I could get by without it with how linked it is to social life at Uni. In moving to uni, I was surprised how ubiquitous Facebook is used here, for event planning, societies and even in organizing some course events. While I use Instagram and Whatsapp everyday, I'm sure I could find alternatives to Whatsapp in that I already prefer using IMessage for it's UI and being able to use it on my Mac is amazing. Although for DMs and getting live info from people I follow in the way of stories, I really would struggle to lose Instagram as there isn't any reasonable alternative I can think of, which comes close to the community and features Instagram offers.
Engin Kurutepe
WhatsApp would be the hardest one to drop but I would love it. Also since so many people use it I keep my accounts to be able to test my products against them. So I could get by just fine but I'm still reluctantly on board.
Abadesi
@ekurutepe I agree out of all of them I use WhatsApp the most. I have friends who aren't on FB or Messenger.
Swapnesh Patra
@ekurutepe I'm seriously waiting for a strong competitor for Whatsapp to show up! Don't like the monopoly.
Engin Kurutepe
@swapnesh_patra1 I wouldn't hold my breath. Any competitor needs to be 10x better to have any chance. The network effects are very strong: you wouldn't use another messenger if all your friends are on WhatsApp.
Swapnesh Patra
@ekurutepe Couldn't agree more. But would love to witness it happening
Maxim Leonovich
@ekurutepe @swapnesh_patra1 It's all about network effects so, 10x may be just not enough. Most of my network, for example, is on Telegram and so am I. I literally keep WhatsApp installed because of a single group I want to follow. Telegram as an app is quite great, better than whatsap but far from 10x..
Daniel Butler
Like with anything (becoming vegetarian etc) it's often a matter of habit, but when they become toxic you have to do something. In the case of FB tools its hard to be the outlier as you miss out on convos that the herd is on. I gave up using personal facebook quite easily, but for work I still need an account to access APIs. Remember when you couldn't "get by" without Yahoo!? Google is still the biggest hurdle for me - gmail, search and Maps. I tried DuckDuckGo but put off by their UI and the results. Apple maps I try to use as often as possible too. Excited for the next gen tools from indie startups that take privacy seriously!
Laura
I definitely depend on Whatsapp for staying in touch with family and friends. And I like Instagram well enough. I won't miss Facebook and Messenger, though. Business-wise, Facebook can still be effective for traffic. But, to be honest, I get waaaay better results with more focused platforms.
Jen ✏️
Unfortunately, fb is good for bringing site traffic since so many people still use it. I mostly only use fb groups & my page nowadays anyway. Most of my creative community hangs out on Instagram so it'd be quite difficult to leave it behind.
Edison Espinosa
@mellowbeing would you be open to an alternative ? I'm actually going to work on an instagram with chronological order and just simple how it used to be.
Ilango Rajagopal
Yup. I already do. WhatsApp was the hardest since a lot of my friends use it. But I still deleted it and haven't looked back since. If I ever go back it'll only be WhatsApp.
Lydia Sugarman
I haven't figured out how to maintain regular communication with many friends and family members outside of Facebook. Expecting them to add another app that doesn't include their extended networks is problematic. Open to suggestions! Keep in mind these people range up to age 96.
Ahmed El-Kady
I involuntary supposed to use FB at least for business, it become a global address book where you can find or search about any thing. But, I do believe it was the same thing 15 years ago when MySpace was the industry manipulator and now no one remember it.
Kyle Thacker
Personally would be easier but professionally I feel would be really limiting growth. If your audience is on instagram or facebook, you're giving up potential followers/users/spokespeople for your brand—especially if you're just starting out.
Jonathan Sun
Maybe but I'd prefer not to. Messenger is still the greatest messaging platform in terms of reaching out to strangers and forming group chats (since there are so many features such as reminders and polls). And Facebook Ads are still a really effective way of reaching out to your audience. I can see the Facebook News Feed being easily replaceable (since people would rather post pics and videos on IG/Snap/Tik Tok), but they've done a good job on making their other products stalwarts. I'd love to see someone create the next great messaging app though! And IG/Snap DM doesn't count (their messaging isn't all that great)
Pankaj Singh
I hated using Whatsapp for work..switched to Rivers IM, many people hate whatsapp for many reasons, for me I don't want to get my work on whatsapp..mixing up with my personal stuff facebook i use seldom ..go there in around a week or 10 days may be and insta...well i use it to consume content but the uses is low..like once in 2 months may be..so i think I can definitely get-by just fine..though will definitely miss them..
Radoslav Stankov
I use Facebook Events (for organizing) and Messenger. But, I can survive without Facebook.
Ahmed El-Kady
@rstankov Can I ask you why you don't use/like it anymore?
Ben Thietje
I would love to ditch FB, but I run a business that sort of relies on the FB business page. Without my personal account, I wouldn't be able to run the business page :(
John Karl Dusenbery
Unfortunately, I still need to contact businesses and some people on Messenger. And the events are really useful. Both could be replaced, but the user-base is not there on other platforms.
Stephan Kreutzer
Never joined Facebook or WhatsApp. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me to give up decentralized Internet architecture and the open web for an artificial SaaS lock-in dependency that basically just a profile homepage and some messaging. I'm more interested in concepts like federation as promoted by Ward Cunningham, the inventor of the wiki.