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Mark Nadal

Bringing the Decentralized Web to Life

3 followers

Bringing the Decentralized Web to Life

3 followers

Political Activist, Autodidactic Philosopher, Neon Visionary, Wanderlust Logician, Artistic Renegade.

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Launched in 2019 View 1 launch

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Wait... I don't follow the reasoning here. You encrypt a message so that... everyone can still read it just fine, except that they need an extension? What stops the big evil from collecting the same data it always has by decrypting it the same way I would?

6yr ago

GUN

Maker

@veggen Great question! For Party Mode, Proof-of-Work does. Facebook gets about 10K+ posts/second, it would take about ~1 hour to PBKDF2 derive the AES-256 keys for each 1 second worth of data. In the case of Secret Agent Mode, they cannot, as that is ECDH p2p Diffie-Hellman key exchanged. They'd have to steal your private key.

6yr ago

@marknadal Ah, ok, so it doesn't *prevent* surveillance, but it makes it punishingly expensive instead.

6yr ago

Want to join my private party? Install http://party.lol to read my secret post: SEA{"m":{"#":"ju1d4qnvHGeuq7O2gLgn~9Yu7h_hqnoxh_sAj1S1Xwr3JSV20f2UcbLGp2nQ3W1Y.NZ6hyF_iLjJFuKUpXIBrd2EHsIfZRaquszd5qd53Ci4.",".":"what",":":{"ct":"JSaBYkh/fVQstifrNVCqI6WOuKuLyU+d8Li8yV6YlmV36xVkBFvZyc3xILUpfJJiosaoglmEs1j1DNQn2fMMY5oxHhcoIzsZHk2Rvniml9rOexvMouQs3lXEM9TCwXblNnmVJiIsKW5hSYCmKxjJVcvH97ECKnN80U+KM4n/npFecKEZbknuYsRVkj3SK34nUCN0MwshIqrCzZbAQ2muSXLTa3SoDhEb","iv":"2cJ8dNwsWgXJHwyFCytM","s":"q9IA+qKDB60k","v":1,"w":"DUEn16pf6ZrByPW3.9OBx7bVvIu1/aM94"},">":1554305110268},"s":"0Qh5p3P4wq1huwBLjCHhuYR3A4J/ZxTZWsnXkXYxanx0MhBv1Rp2b1Dw/9IgSIWIT2C7Bf4jKdtw3WQykDBDoA=="}

6yr ago

Want to join my private party? Install http://party.lol to read my secret post: SEA{"m":{"#":"ju1hxfz8IK5IupEBpb2o~G5zkv3WutzVMdg7wUEeQYfac5lEIIJzTG8Iu9G9-RRU._yQDe3u5Fu50O648DVHaSAPbwOrvNjObTXhLHBQde0Q.",".":"what",":":{"ct":"3hXj0E+uPY9Tw2pl6kaxJZfAaDr+lu6BM0gl2TwW7ZNBWGov6gP1LcMXR3imeOLPPMOH3k2/cGl1cTxnKjsEinQX1SPDs/UVchYTxnfD5Mv06feN1kgx6ngt5//VyuSX89nWW1GQzhmL7s8i7qK9ZpbPoj/wQ2ZIH4j+uOD0w8fi99WtziGGrdWMIZg9","iv":"gTpYh3z554d+hbFrAxuV","s":"r1edNLLyZOyz","v":1,"w":"TaM+Kj6PBdATN//d.YqkPNNCDG0Tj1Ak1"},">":1554313167909},"s":"D34PPNHpVeMnT6iSJcTYnJQRnfqzojQhgMn8dKtompBe7QyY/E47j+EQNUqI2wyhp95I8JYJUwhbOlYn/yHPRQ=="}

6yr ago

GUN

Maker

Want to join my private party? Install http://party.lol to read my secret post: SEA{"m":{"#":"ju1id56pOgegTcOfyNbF~pIqWHWOhyTbSLKEfbcmanUinGXfKSG8-buPBu15YjY4._fWJsqaR8CGHMmn5fKIFNiu37WPIdi8EsZKbVi6R05M.",".":"what",":":{"ct":"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","iv":"4FOqj9VykXyg3nOwlEOQ","s":"S9bF9NgoP9rd","v":1,"w":"gKTYUiXzcxqqvxW3./j1CuHc6EaLBbFCG"},">":1554313900419},"s":"eeiIE9IXGsrbCz/OKKVEa9Japz9SxRMwkDd8HTYY8++ctKLyQafPwsj4Q3/jJvokZoPw49IFvHLuw68XUk5k8A=="}

6yr ago

@peterrossc For twitter, I used to post the encrypted tweet on gist or something similar, and tweet the shorturl to the person whose meant to see it

6yr ago

Want to join my private party? Install http://party.lol to read my secret post: SEA{"m":{"#":"ju2a58o20tInNNdsS8Iw~9Yu7h_hqnoxh_sAj1S1Xwr3JSV20f2UcbLGp2nQ3W1Y.NZ6hyF_iLjJFuKUpXIBrd2EHsIfZRaquszd5qd53Ci4.",".":"what",":":{"ct":"Fmoe9hq8jfU8mwOJw9dLzk70cV8VVWf+nWi9dr6LIkqNOldO+rKrQbZyJNdw10VLgt69w0V9dqmKhYSC6CfnA1oU8jjHD/vsNcegvw6LBwL50nOTq0KaLjzV2XN4VyoxTvKJ6eUwg/PVxlqwtBL8jlJDU/r2XJ7+/P7UHMTzMXimnszUYy8rptAhjVPWOu9eCLHVgKcXW0FCRWSNoRao1oAJyWweAj95f/ySr3WhOU1l3K3H5yErzsjBsd9j0hv6Td2NDYzxpuVrJEx5aWcgJoiLMhGPp7hQVbSKzBmTgyJA1PNjSIztvfh0xDbd9TUvZzl+fgmCSo0IeueXHNArrSVBLOC0DX0j8v4zI+dNItPL/GVxi2SY+Emvds/IgFY7m2AMUkG1925Q/cfqr+Vc05qmVwbpsu+4+F/kUrdKAISOcv5bfXAMVZfbyN01Au2MY1ZUll8tiaefd7fDUhleo6KhD5174h/bx7Twedbuzi49y1c=","iv":"ZX7LSKspUk81AjInUQPS","s":"w5xJF+wMUcBB","v":1,"w":"GW/fypPmzekKoSgz.vD4wqT9WIeNS06bs"},">":1554360560931},"s":"w/dEhtNKW7s04IIUP4Y518O5207vEctuWGiaKvf0/9b8X/2M59nlC2a/kR3/w+ghd0U9E4KIbUjEvjnYNyrx0A=="}

6yr ago

GUN

Maker

Want to join my private party? Install http://party.lol to read my secret post: SEA{"m":{"#":"ju2d9cvmDdgJFkq9umzf~pIqWHWOhyTbSLKEfbcmanUinGXfKSG8-buPBu15YjY4._fWJsqaR8CGHMmn5fKIFNiu37WPIdi8EsZKbVi6R05M.",".":"what",":":{"ct":"zc9XcBzHnpWf0JT/mnF2LFxJ59Jt+jvs2CBodK0vkXt4+bdm0y2skikZBjXPrKSMl4MXACeYJc4ZkcvxAuVlhwomIdwyGvLQoYkvtkIDtLwDu/hhcUwsrX779wPfaUInuj5j1qOSTkfXkgra7HbKWhkj7R2rANsu7tc+WU2893De+3x7wL5dhXqOfwq3eJ1oNShjlIv3FlHr/pm7fFFF4J85jaBRLHRvp95lR+dCXxAa+rHVz/TCwLxyQvTMvTjyUfs0LVURh8VqJezpwLIivZPm0zJTOkxbYuXfgkGimaTRs0YMTrg0ud9rbZWvhtah0UfIJmOa1CYxLjAK+IfTZ9eJwyU2oA1fRMhKQlYprrBzFK6gCxHQPFGI9ovFODJ5qLGu","iv":"gL3flrukXokEMyey/4dW","s":"BZd/q/0SjH1O","v":1,"w":"wPd+4HwliL0tpH/E.eiXPYpBZ8dii0q1z"},">":1554365791859},"s":"7Z0bsyQBIlGfm9/Eq07OIrhsGubTaS4RjVTBN3U2Q8Xo15TTfRACM4CDpgAzc9A3AzLMfLqsutvtwEAuQg0RLw=="}

6yr ago

GUN

Maker

Yes, it even works on Product Hunt. ;) Can anybody figure out what I said? (note: at this time, manual installation of the extension is required, see instructions on the site.) Want to join my private party? Install http://party.lol to read my secret post: SEA{"m":{"#":"ju0v7xhn601yU95st0SO~pIqWHWOhyTbSLKEfbcmanUinGXfKSG8-buPBu15YjY4._fWJsqaR8CGHMmn5fKIFNiu37WPIdi8EsZKbVi6R05M.",".":"what",":":{"ct":"z+XcwIyJGa9lBGHUXddP/gCqdNMnWJ8CsBWDqER+rJh0q+8c3EDUf1VwXONpUh9t5McIKgdrmkrazRDkXksUIDfecxIcm9qa3DQ7VtK/opSMxRMnFxpnWXSGqSXlutmtkbVw5CRr/EWN06k+0s2MvKzRiR0p6WpuOFxZVQIqL7cHf8QTqwkth4g=","iv":"mkKwUk13P8rpEAsABk/i","s":"nh88L7cdmsP7","v":1,"w":"+PQKiOikGed6JNQx.HthbVSexnEe0Ki4z"},">":1554275025998},"s":"pSCfHZIKbKJbJsOOPMbZp/bH0mS4vMxoDiIdug9WbcrjSOCFLxrxDeFuUwJMpjz1fvHC4DeWPeq/9z+1Z+52JQ=="}

6yr ago

local.ai

Want to join my private party? Install http://party.lol to read my secret post: SEA{"m":{"#":"ju12chjx0Cjwtl3re2K9~fq8v-uN7pxCHvKrrzXsDTtaG9_0PmpfN04Q9EVJVixs._fINEbvmu9UQmWOp_xSXNDHdgP2ssJAfFdyQr9Az4A4.",".":"what",":":{"ct":"6WDtf+gHmPPZhNWTVP/F1PRLk/piq2sgVkniM55LzAs/3YsO4Aj9SmijbKiTbizC5eqG+GwKuS5BMmjKcJ8bcx5SM4CjvAARp5m6vK6uxBaxqKgXLewvdBWvwJbWExZIl9n5pNWABGF9vKHLh9MQ9Xdk","iv":"9MimhndPjh+LfRk2T8Gy","s":"GcTrABA89kZh","v":1,"w":"+Bf7RflajF7ENbBn.KDSSp8Dmg4Cwwm+x"},">":1554286995934},"s":"ufm5lGyWdKCQpG/kvXM2Q63ZIyUXYPj1urC738cqpRVdRZDyVpY9avXmUJky9CdZGFaIAAqgKn4Mpe3VbHxY6w=="}

6yr ago

GUN

Maker

@lgvichy yes, comment/input has to be empty for encryptor to pop up on click. This is to make it easy for people to skip/exit or edit messages after the fact. Although I'd love to get more feedback, do you think the popup should be more aggressive? Right now, GUN makes 0 network calls, but yes is aggregating keys using Martti Malmi's Iris/Identifi algorithm. Once you have aggregated enough keys (not us!) we'll be able to upgrade everyone to Secret Agent Mode, which will use GUN for the decentralized/P2P connections. There will be settings/options to change peers, use your own peers, etc. so you fully control everything.

6yr ago

local.ai

Want to join my private party? Install http://party.lol to read my secret post: SEA{"m":{"#":"ju13av7mfIDha6EedhwS~fq8v-uN7pxCHvKrrzXsDTtaG9_0PmpfN04Q9EVJVixs._fINEbvmu9UQmWOp_xSXNDHdgP2ssJAfFdyQr9Az4A4.",".":"what",":":{"ct":"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","iv":"aVHbmnCHL+Amdg2nHe9S","s":"+DTKrPMudQuS","v":1,"w":"Kl47I9OoxbqpOafu.JFun8aEaWOVhtmNf"},">":1554288599939},"s":"liItxVJBzRSbRfm0cEe8qr/GexL2lCdUjqupph/Lknqdi7Eagc436Q4Bn91/rYyAyKJmuxkcNZqljWh9gFW4Yg=="}

6yr ago

GUN

Maker

@lgvichy ok, yes, thought so :P it is aggressive! lib/webrtc.js since Browser doesn't need NPM dependencies! 5 min interactive coding tutorial: https://gun.eco/docs/Todo-Dapp Yes, Martti's work is awesome. I know Dominic of SSB too. I'm hoping to have SEA (the encryption wrapper) to support libsodium (currently uses WebCrypto, per browser focus, again). Here is the key sharing steps: https://github.com/eraeco/party.... What is your ECDSA link? Would love to see it! Yes, we use ECDSA+ECDH keypairs, probably same as you?

6yr ago

local.ai

Want to join my private party? Install http://party.lol to read my secret post: SEA{"m":{"#":"ju14jzmt1LxFABHax76Q~fq8v-uN7pxCHvKrrzXsDTtaG9_0PmpfN04Q9EVJVixs._fINEbvmu9UQmWOp_xSXNDHdgP2ssJAfFdyQr9Az4A4.",".":"what",":":{"ct":"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","iv":"5HGWejPadzTtanQb7AVb","s":"/oxTlmKx2b6f","v":1,"w":"CqjXpI7YBu9xchzH.RoCBI+OJRFrYaQu1"},">":1554290705190},"s":"OG8n+2Z9JQkSqJQPSbVrD6zI87Vx4/MSxAqfWjP9kJ7i9AM3lb3nbL+g3sgJwI9cvR96R5VQxvrx/J2c5X6FiQ=="}

6yr ago