Alloy is a data-driven tool for intelligent sports betting. Create profitable betting systems with a fast and straightforward interface regardless of your technical skill. Leverage 10+ years of historical data to see what upcoming games fit your model.
Hello Product Hunt,
I’m excited today to launch Alloy Sports! Alloy is a sports betting research app where you can quickly build your own winning betting systems. Every model is data-backed and personal. The ambiguity of blindly trusting other sources or algorithms for your bets is gone.
From Brad Kronthal, Alloy co-founder:
I’m Brad, co-founder & COO. I’m an avid sports fan who loves to bet on sports! My team and I started Alloy because we needed a tool that assured quality, personal research. Alloy is powered with the same data as the sportsbooks, giving power back to the bettors.
With Alloy, you don’t need to know how to code or have a mathematics degree to build and test your models. We made our app intuitive so that any sports fan can navigate it and find success quickly, wherever they are.
Features:
🧙♂️ Quickstart Wizard
• Create a betting system in 3 quick steps (select from a combination of stats and filters)
• Discover systems with over 60% success rates in under 30 seconds
📈 Results
• Displays your system’s historical win percentage, overall record, return on investment, and money earned over time.
• 10+ years of historical data! This allows for quality and quantity of sample size.
See if the value is best to bet on underdogs or favorites.
✨ Alloy Pro
• A premium platform that lets you leverage your sports knowledge with over 200 stat and filter combinations. Making the complex easy.
• Build your proprietary winning betting systems.
🏠 Home Dashboard
• Displays your saved and pinned systems.
• Shows your upcoming games to bet for each pinned system once new odds are released.
• Finding what team to bet on each day takes seconds and is as simple as opening the app. Your top bets are displayed right away.
📓 Content
• If you want to be told systems that work, our Insights page is the place for you.
• We provide weekly “forecasts” on games to bet on from our successful systems.
• We break the systems down and transparently tell you the stats and filters that go into every one.
Alloy takes the headache out of betting with data and focuses on a quick and powerful user experience. Become your own betting expert and win more bets.
Alloy is available right now on iOS. Download the Alloy Sports App for Free. Includes a 1-month Free trial to Alloy Pro!
We’d love to know what the Product Hunt community thinks about Alloy Sports! The more questions, feedback, and insights, the better! Feel free to email me directly at Brad@alloysports.com
We are currently operational in the United States, Canada, Europe, Israel, India, Australia, and New Zealand, and we plan to launch in more countries as we grow.
📲 Sign up and Download the app here! https://apps.apple.com/us/app/al...
That's interesting, for reals. I'm gonna have to dust off my jailbroken iPhone 8 that's still on iOS 13 and load it up hoping it would run. I am curious about a few things that is probably in the app somewhere but perhaps belong in the FAQ section:
a) To determine how much you won, you need odds, obviously. There are many sportsbooks and the most prominent ones don't simply copy from other sites. Which books do you support? And do you support exchanges in addition to traditional books?
b) Obviously with any such project, overfitting is going to be a constant concern (I assume that sports that lends itself to underfitting is a pointless endeavour to put into your database, but hey, who doesn't like betting on the color of the Gatorade at the Super Bowl, sample size 15). You have a lot of variables and so it might be pretty easy to overfit your wayinto what appears to be a profitable model. If I didn't do this for a living I'd know very little about it since Stats isn't a mandated course and if punters are all familiar with the concept, a lot of books would probably be pretty mad. Whose side are you on, and are you able to at least mention the pitfall that I would guess every person newly working with data runs into?
c) I guess related to b), but how do you handle the situation where the solution to b) is to come up with some reasonable rationale for the relationship, except the relationship actually doesn't exist and the statistical signficance turns out to be a complete fluke. I mean, this is gambling, after all. How would you handle the inevitability of this happening in a strategy?
d) This feels like is asking for a marketplace of some sort or at least a strategy sharing mechanism (possibly with some social functions). Any plans?
I actually just checked my personal log for the past few years and it appears that my not terribly data-driven, dare I say reckless strategy of betting on Crystal Palace as heavy dogs or any team playing the top 6 as a heavy dog managed to account for 42 units won, which is one fewer than my meticulous, sabermetrics and statcast-based baseball model focused on starting pitchers, after 1800 bets. Also, in my first strategy there I lost 31 straight before hitting the Brentford win - last one was from April - but outside of 2016-2017 (where it was only 1u up) this has been consistantly profitable on a season-long basis. How would you grade something with this level of volatility? Would you try?
Very curious about the product, sadly I'm still on an Intel Mac (waiting for the next gen to upgrade), and it certainly feels like perhaps it wouldn't be out of place as a desktop app (I'm running my own analytics and scraping remotely and just betting dimes offshore, and even if my system had a UI that isn't just crappier Metasploit-but-for-sports I can't imagine not using up at least most of my secondary screen for odds updates. Obviously you'd need to be a pretty huge degen to actually start betting nothing but Palace against the top teams (actually, only 4 out of the top six, Arsenal and Tottenham generally don't trip up on Palace). I feel like this oculd be something mass market but not have the customizability - or possibly even the timeliness - that someone like me, who has a 4 Super Bowl gatorade color winning streak because books list flavors that Gatorade no longer makes in mixable format and a portfolio of the well-researched and absurdistly simple (CB Bucknor's umpiring record in certain parks at certain times, the Air Force Academy's almost guaranteed first half under regardless of the actual line, etc). This feels more appropriate even on my Samsung Z Fold 4 if we're dealing with any significant output. Any plans for Android? Or perhaps an analytic framework into which we load our own api or data into a backend? Oddly enough, this term is never used outside of camera equipment I think but I can't help but think "prosumer" upon first impression and I have no clue whether that fits your conception or even makes sense. Anyway, best of luck, happy degening, and hopefully nobody takes any of my betting advice because betting on black swan events is uh, not something a sane person would do based on how sharp EPL lines are now.
Cheers
@jim_zhou This is an amazing comment. Thank you so much, Jim!
A) we use the consensus line for data. Will be showing specific sports books lines for upcoming games soon
B) When building a model, overfitting can come into play. With our platform, we use a bottom-up and top-down approach. With stats, we compare teams head to head and include every game to help avoid overfitting. With filters, if you include too many, overfitting can become an issue as this is a top-down method.
To ensure against overfitting, we encourage using statistics that make sense as well as working with a large enough sample size. We provide systems in our Insights section that we have built as a starting point. We also start you off with two pre-built strategies that have been successful. Additionally, our Betting Education section looks to provide more context around building successful, quality systems.
As you mentioned, if your system factors in the color of Gatorade on the sideline, or solely relies on punting statistics, you’re probably going down the wrong path. However, looking at major factors such as a team’s passing, defense, and rushing is a good place to start.
We started this company to build a tool that would help us find an edge against the books by seeing up to 10 years of historical data. Alloy Sports was built to put the bettor first and that will always be the case.
C) Education and using your knowledge as a sports fan is key. We will lead you in the right direction to focus on factors that matter. The end result is a system that not only has good historical numbers, but makes sense. We look to place relevant stats in prominent locations and we are constantly looking to improve the platform with more educational tips and data around building better systems. Our team is also always available to answer any questions through the chat on our website.
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