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  • Product Hubs, Launch Pages, Follows... Do you like the new PH?

    Michael Rumiantsau
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    I love Product Hunt, but the new redesign is confusing. And based on the feedback I heard from other community members, many people don't get the new concept with 'products/hubs', 'launch pages', 'follows', etc. A few weeks ago, we launched Narrative BI for Google Ads https://www.producthunt.com/posts/narrative-bi-for-google-ads. While the launch was warmly accepted by the community (#8-day rank), we had serious challenges caused by a recent Product Hunt redesign. Moreover, we couldn't take advantage of the new functionality due to some design issues, which I outline below. 1) We were forced to create a new product even though we already had two launches of the same product. Our product Narrative BI lets you quickly connect your marketing data sources and get automated insights and alerts out of your data. We put a lot of effort into every integration and launch every integration separately It would be logical to have a single product, "Narrative BI" and create a separate launch for each integration. But we can't. Based on our previous launches, PH created a 'Narrative BI for GA' product with 2 launches: UA and GA4. But 'Narrative BI for GA' is an integration (launch: https://www.producthunt.com/products/narrative-bi#narrative-bi-for-google-analytics), not a product! The only option for us now is to create a new 'product' for each subsequent integration. So, we launched a new 'product': "Narrative BI for Google Ads", and our current structure looks like this: šŸ“ Product1: Narrative BI for GA ā””šŸ“ - Launch1: Narrative BI for GA ā””šŸ“ - Launch2: Narrative BI for GA4 šŸ“ Product2: Narrative BI for Google Ads ā””šŸ“ - Launch1: Narrative BI for Google Ads But it should be: šŸ“ Product1: Narrative BI ā””šŸ“ - Launch1: Narrative BI for GA ā””šŸ“ - Launch2: Narrative BI for GA4 ā””šŸ“ - Launch3: Narrative BI for Google Ads ā””šŸ“ - Launch4: our next integration ā””šŸ“ - Launch5: ... 2) Another problem is that people don't understand the difference between 'follow' and 'upvote' I don't understand it too. Since we have to create a separate product for each launch, there is no point in product followers. Because of this confusion, we had ~80 more followers than upvotes on the launch day. All from people who were genuinely interested in our launch but didn't know the difference between an upvote and follow. The easiest solution would be to allow makers to manage the structure of the products and launches. In our case, it would be logical to create a separate Product Hub and move all launches there. I think Product Hunt is still one of the best places to launch your startup and get initial traction, but I heard similar feedback from other makers, so I hope the PH team will hear this feedback. Let me know if this resonates with your experience!

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    Kyle Frost
    Hey Michael, sorry for the confusion! Keep an eye our for someone on our community team to reach out. Basically, as you surmised, you don't have to create a new product. We'll change the name of your product to Narrative BI, and all launches can live under that. With any big data migration, there's a bit migration/automation weirdness -- we're working through it. Makers can reach out to our community team to change names/descriptions/etc right now. Additionally, the team is currently working on making it easier for makers to manage their products. Overall, it was a big architecture change that we think will be a big improvement in the long run but bear with us as we get all the pieces up to speed!
    Michael Rumiantsau
    @kylefrost hey Kyle, thanks for the prompt reaction, appreciate it! Pam from the community team already helped me to move our launches under one roof, but looks like we lost some followers in the process... Anyway, I think Product Hunt moves in the right direction and the attention you pay to the community feedback reinforces this feeling. Good job!
    Ankit Ghosh
    I feel like it's debatable also the structuring thing is kind of right as well as wrong. Regarding personal preference, yeah, feel a bit of friction as it's wholly new, but I guess stuff would get better over time.
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    Indeed, the design has been improved a lot