Hey @joshcanhelp - looks good. When I was working on anotheruniverse.com I looked at a couple of people doing PH themes for WP. I don't think yours was out yet (or I missed it). We're going to be launching a couple other PH for X ideas coming up, so I'll going to be giving you a try as well (though I do love the telescope framework).
Do you have a development plan for new features or layout types? What's on your agenda for this?
@sacbookreviewer I appreciate that, let me know if you have any specific pre-sale questions about the theme here: https://theproperweb.com/contact/
The upcoming features are all listed here: http://rankitwp.com/docs/future-.... The next release, which is a bit delayed, will add some key features like collections/favorites, time-bounded top listings, and admin style controls. It will be a big release and answer a number of requests from current users.
Thanks!
@peterjthomson He sounded interested in the theme so I thought I would be helpful and not gum up this comment thread by pointing him to where I can answer his questions directly. These being questions related to buying the theme, I call them "pre-sale."
Does that help clear things up for you?
@joshcanhelp I wasn't offended by it. And completely understood what you were saying. Often when doing a cold email to a website about a service I'll use the same term in my subject line, so we're all good. Will probably follow up w you later today.
I am impressed all the things that can be done with WP. But honestly I will use another kind of solution. WP is an excellent CMS but the DB its is not designed to be used for that. What will happen as soon as you have few thousand posts? you will need a dedicated server? all of that because not a proper dedicated solution? I guess you use custom post types and that relies heavily in the DB performance.
My 5 cents do not want to start any flame just based in my experience as WP developer just few years ago ;)
I saw not too long ago on PH http://www.telescopeapp.org/ --> http://www.producthunt.com/posts... I agree requieres a litle bit more tech knowledge but for sure anyone will install it for you for few $ ;)
@deambulando You probably are correct here. I've seen a couple of WP themes now for PH clones, and having used WP a lot, I can see many limitations. However, having also done telecope, I can see doing an MVP using a WP theme as a lot more cost effective than doing a full blown telescope build (probably pushing $1000 with some minor customizations, but requiring ongoing hourly for support) whereas WP theme install, customize and you're out running in a day.
Now trying to move all of your MVP users and content from WP to telescope? That could suck. But then if your MVP works, it'll probably be worth it.
@deambulando No flame war will be started, I promise!
I've worked with WordPress for close to 10 years now and I will say that before I understood how WP uses that database and the right ways to cache, I might have agreed with you. But 1,000 posts in WordPress is, truly, far, far below what it can handle. I've worked with sites with hundreds of thousands of posts and WordPress handles it without any issues (and without thousands of dollars of hardware). MySQL is a proven, capable DB technology and WordPress does a lot to make sure that it's used to its fullest (indexed tables, built-in query caching, etc). In my experience, WP performance issues come from too many plugins doing too many things and loading too many assets.
I've done a lot to make sure that this runs well even on shared servers:
- Query caching where it makes sense
- Combined and minified JS/CSS
- Boundaries for cron processing queries of the vote ranking
I've worked on a number of large sites running WP so I've seen it all (wrote a bit about it here: https://theproperweb.com/wordpre...)
@joshcanhelp@deambulando oh I am sure handles thousands of posts, I got few blogs running on WP myself with many visits. My concern is more using WP as Framework for development. But surely works.
But I agree 100% to launch a MVP it's a great solution ;)
I started Open Classifieds as a theme for WP and soon got stuck in many limitations and issues. Was a tough call to move out and develop it properly but at the long term it has paid off a lot. Really a lot ;)
regards and good luck! sure the sales form PH help ;)
@deambulando I really enjoy using it as a framework, personally, but I'm probably guilty of a little "if you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail." A bespoke application build by talented folks towards a goal will, most often, work better than a generic CMS. My point, though, is that I believe WordPress's capabilities as a platform go far beyond just an MVP. I would say that if you're managing content then it's an excellent choice and I wouldn't agree that you have to move to something custom at any point, just if you reach the limits of what WordPress is helping with and it starts to encumber you.
Thanks for the discussion!
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